Julius Randle Discussion: MIP

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  1. lakerfan2

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    I would say he gets unmotivated when the ball isn't in his hands.

    When he's fully engaged into the game, he plays at another level than he usually does.

    My frustration with him stems from his lack of basketball IQ.
     
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    All fair points. I'd say not having the ball would frustrate any young player, but Julius is definitely prone to crappy play when he feels like the game isn't going the right way (usually through him).
     
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    Once again, factually and incredibly biased response. If you try to argue he doesn't work hard, there are countless examples to the contrary. Mentally weak? Low bball IQ does not mean mentally weak. Trying to do too much and playing behind your skills is not typical of mentally weak players. We've all conceded he has a low bball IQ. It's okay to criticize and point out his flaws, but let's stick to the ones that are legit (IQ, shooting, defense).
     
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    Jesus, who cares how it's written. Randle is not good. Working hard doesn't mean s***. This team needs talented basketball players. That's all that matters.
     
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    Wow. So you want LB to be a place where people disregard egregiously inaccurate details and don't give a s*** about hard work. Got it.
     
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    LOL... can't wait till we're 7-28 or something like that. This place will be FUN :D
     
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    Most people here are fine and can have fun making fun of the players. Lakerground might be the Youtube comments on a Trump video. But this site started when the Lakers were just starting their epic run of Sucktacular play. If anything, it's made the site more exciting and interesting. No Sucktacular play...no Sirron poop gifs. Honestly, there isn't much to talk about when you're winning 60 games and are guaranteed a trip to at least the WCF.
     
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    Yeah, then you can only talk actual basketball. Highlights and stuff. B.O.R.I.N.G.

    :Fishwink:
     
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    I mean, those summers during the Shaq Kobe 3-peat were about as dull as can be. The big news is when we'd draft Mark Madsen with the 30th pick in the draft or something.
     
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    Yeah, I was probably entertaining myself in Open Court with alternate personalities, pretending to fall for Nigerian scammer schemes and messing with them, etc to pass the time. I'd rather suffer through a slow offseason than shut off the game at the half and get dry heaves watching the team play though.
     
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    True. I'd much rather they are winning. But the basketball discussion is livelier when they are bad because everyone can theorize how to fix it, what's going to happen, etc. When we are winning, it's us wondering whether or not we are going to sign Kendall Gill for cheap.
     
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    best time to be a fan is when things are unexpectedly good. the 2007-8 season was awesome for that reason. team comes out of nowhere to be a force in the west, then trades for pau gasol at the deadline.

    honestly, the 10-10 start last year was probably the most entertaining time to be a lakers fan since the last title (unless you want to count stuff like kobe's farewell game).

    so...if this were the optimism thread i'd say: nobody is expecting us to be good, so maybe now's the time?
     
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    Less to talk about at that point.
     
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    Easy Tania ..... easy. You don't want to get on OX's bad side. He could put a declared ceiling on your career right here and now. ;) :giggle:

    "Lakers' Julius Randle has transformed his body and he hopes his game"

    http://www.latimes.com/sports/lakers/la-sp-lakers-randle-20171005-story.html

    We’ve seen the pictures on social media,” Lakers General Manager Rob Pelinka said. “I could go down the roster … and say these guys look in world-class shape already and it's like manna from Heaven

    :Laugh:
     
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    Haa. I read that article just to see if Rob was crazy enough to use “manna from heaven”. Thank god(?) he didn’t.
     
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    The comments made are not to fulfill some self-diluted message board prophecy. I speak the way I do in real life, on all message boards I frequent.

    I supported D'Angelo Russell his entire career with the Lakers because I believed he had a talent that many didnt have. This is about NBA talent. Nothing more. When I look at the lakers talent for 4 years now, the talent has been horrendous. Despite the "physical tools". Everyone in the NBA has physical tools. Everyone has BASKETBALL skills, thats why they are in the NBA. But the big wigs who have run basketball teams need to start noticing who are the Al Jefferson's and who are the real difference makers to winning basketball.

    The talent HAS to result to wins. Magic was the best at winning, he needs to figure out who and what and stop talking about players coming up on break out years. BI was never going to have a break out year this year. He isnt good enough to make that big of a jump. If Russell turns into James Harden II, which i think he will, Magic's magic will be gone completely in my book. Kuzma would have more than likely been available a pick later, so I dont buy the fact that we do not get him if we dont trade for it. If it had to do with cap flex and wanting to get rid of a head case, Ill buy that, that will only be justified if the Lakers get 2 title player additions next summer. We will know for sure then.
     
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    Kuzma was the cherry on top of the sundae. Kuzma is going to be a better and more consistent player in the league than Russell. Aside from that and getting rid of Mozgov's contract painlessly now away from getting f***** at the trade deadline or at the end of the season and Lopez whom you love like many of us coming back ..... means your premise of getting 2 title players back being the only justification for that trade is :SadPau2: ..... your opinion or your statement ..... tonight. OK. IMO it was a small and freaking perfect window of opportunity to take care of 3 or more birds with one stone.
     
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    Christ...Another DLo sighting. <Insert sirron poop emoji>

    DLo is another scorer who can't win s*** (ie Al Jefferson and till now, Harden)....Dude didn't help our winning causes under 2 head coaches. So like you said Ox, the talent HAS to result to wins and instead we got 2 of the worst seasons of Lakers basketball ever under his watch as a "leader". Time for new leadership then, even tho it's still early in his career... But looking at all his off the court transgressions along with teammates rumored not wanting to play with him... It can be argued that moving on was not premature and instead was absolutely justified in building up the right culture around here.

    Everybody is up in arms off of 3 preseason games...Really?

    Which brings us to BI. It's a win-win to put lofty expectations on there kid. Cause he's got the right 'tude to take it on. Since he won't shy away from the pressure, you give him a new baseline to reach for. If he gets there, we found our next franchise player... If he doesn't, at least in trying to get there, he becomes a good player and possibly a star in the League with good work ethic to mature with as a player moving forward. Not only that, but it should lead to more wins. However if it leads to empty stats in a losing season, a la DLo, then he becomes another valuable trade asset. Either way, talking up your players is a win-win and Magic did the right thing in doing it.

    Lastly, Magic will never lose "it"...Especially for the likes of dealing away DLo...please. He's earned way more for this franchise than that...Meanwhile we freaking gave Mitch a wand for far less. In dealing for the 27th pick, we were able to make moves to get us Hart and TB. Early eye-ball test tells me it's a low risk, high reward transaction seeing how we dealt for those 2 with the 28th pick (which became Tony Bradley at 3 pts 5 rbs over 3 preseason games for the Jazz). The Nets had the 27th pick and during the offseason, they threw the bank at Otto Porter and when the Wiz matched they traded for Crabbe and Carroll...So you can't rule out that they would have passed Kuzma at 27.

    Either way, I'm anxious to start the games that really count. Cause not only will there be more rotational structure for those games, but we should have our full lineup to trot out there. Again, most of you tossing dirt on this team and dreading the DLo trade haven't even seen the true potential of this team yet. Just like annointing DLo the next stud SG of this league, don't you think it's a little premature to call this team a failure already?

    Oh yeah, let's mention something about Jules seeing how it's his thread. You keep hyping up his body composition and writing fluff pieces on the guy...Cause just like upping up BI, you need to increase his trade value...the obvious difference being, he's more likely to be dealt.
     
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    I'll just say that 1) folks gotta stop scapegoating DLO for everything that was wrong with the team and 2) if its okay for people to bring up DLO to take shots at him it should be okay for others to point out the positives.
     
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    What part of the worst stretch in Lakers history is scapegoating? Phil not winning us 70 games in a title year cause he didn't call enough timeouts, is scapegoating. LO and Pau costing us a title in playing "soft" against the C Bags is scapegoating.

    We won absolutely nothing except historical failure with DLo. That's justified criticism. Not to mention, that Jimmy and Mitch were figure heads for that period and they're gone as well. You got MozDeng who was their final bid at f***ery against us and our present FO tried to eliminate that as well this summer, succeeding partially at it. It's the same reason most do not want Clarkson and Jules to remain on this team moving forward cause the losing stench all occurred under their watch.

    It's a discussion board and fans can express their regret of the DLo trade.. Absolutely! But I don't understand it... Never will...and any time it rears it's ugly Dlosing head, I'll make sure to decapitate it... Absolutely!
     

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