Sort of what we figured right? C Bags aren't going to jump in on anything less than an extension and to get there they'll have to do some major juggling. I asked Pincus flat out if they could get George and Hayward and he wouldn't give me a straight answer. In order for the C Bags to trade for George AND sign Hayward AND still have cap space, they'd have to really do some juggling. We're talking about trading away Crowder, Bradley, at least one of Brown or Tatum and probably Rozier in order to maintain cap space AFTER landing Hayward in FA. I'm not positive how much Cap Space is needed to add to that big contract for George. I don't know if you can only use the Cap Space available in order to give George that restructured raise (ala Harden) or if you only need a few million... That'd leave them with Thomas, George, Hayward, Tatum or Brown, Smart, and Horford.
Paul George's camp needs to speak out again! If his agent just tells woj "no matter what team trades for him, including the Lakers, George still wants to be a free agent, still prefers Los Angeles."
They literally just did that with the Sam Amick piece yesterday. He reiterated he wants LA, that's still where he's looking, but if he goes to a contender and wins or gets to the Finals, he's open to staying there. The article mentioned that he's already recruiting players to LA as well. It just depends on how you wanted to read that article if it made you more or less confident. It obviously split this site pretty hard down the line.
This is why it's a good idea not to let your emotions swing back and forth from one rumor to another. Just let things play out. Rumors are just rumors until something really happens.
Great breakdown. Another thing we should really be hoping for is that Hayward stays with the Jazz because if he does I'm sure BOS will be less and less likely to give away the kind of assets needed to swing a PG trade knowing that they still probably need another great talent. If BOS does land Hayward I can definitely see a PG trade happening with BOS. But you're absolutely correct, whoever gets PG in a trade this year (even us) he's not signing an extension right off the bat and shouldn't be making any promises to do so either. If PG is smart he will play out his contract with whatever team he lands with this year and then next Summer go and visit all the teams he may want to resign with and make a decision based on that. If this plays out this way I really like our chances because with Luke, Magic, and Rob in the room and the infectious personalities that Luke and Magic have it will be hard to turn down.
You're not getting a better deal Pritchard. You see what CP3 and Butler went for. Stop dragging this out. Just give us George already.
Hahaha so we're rooting for Hayward to sign with Miami or stay in Utah and for Biff to stay with Clippers or go anywhere but Boston hahaha
if the C Bags offer either our pick (irony alert!) or bkn's, that deal's done. i'm guessing they're offering neither or they are introducing new protections to the picks. i've wondered if we offered an unprotected pick in 2020, would that get it done? it's a gamble for both sides.
We offered our first available 1st round pick completely unprotected in order to dump Deng and there were no takers.
i thought it was that we offered it to dump moz or deng, prior to using russell to do so. all the reports i saw about george had us using this year's picks to get it done. but i might have missed one. anyway, an unprotected pick two years from now isn't nothing.
amazing, right? i hope those other teams know things i don't. because they're guessing we're out of the lotto by then.
Boston was always going to be able to beat our offer, but will they? In order to make sure George sticks around they'll have to give away a lot of the assets they've been hoarding and I'm talking real players on contract, not picks. They'd have to lose at least Crowder, Brown or Tatum, and Bradley to make the financials work. Are they willing to take away all that depth? I don't know... Could be worth it if you can find a way to restructure George's deal under the Cap. I don't know that they can do that AND get Hayward though. I'm still iffy on that. We'll have to wait and see. Hayward staying in Utah or picking Miami would go a long way toward helping our cause I think. I doubt they give up all that for George without another piece.
I mean it's so far in the future, I'm guessing teams figure we'll be in the 12-7 range in the West. Is it worth it?... I sort of doubt it. I also bet the Lakers were looking for a return as well instead of just a straight dump... Amazing how awful that contract is. Just truly... Mitch and Jim did a number on that one.
Eric Pincus ✔@EricPincus If Paul George is traded to a situation he likes & the team has cap room l, he can lock in serious $ immediately, or even more after 6 mos 9:53 AM - 29 Jun 2017 What is Pincus babbling about here?
Basically if a team trades for him (Boston) and they have room under the cap, they can use that cap space to give the player an extension. It was one of the ways LA could have benefited in trading for him. The key is: I don't know how much cap space they'd need. Pincus told me they'd try to preserve 10-12 million in cap space if they traded for George. I asked if they could then still sign Hayward and he wouldn't give me an answer. So it's technically possible for George to sign an extension without giving up a ton of money (think Harden and Westbrook), but I'm not certain he could do that anywhere else but here or Boston and it might preclude Boston being able to sign Hayward.
Just telling us what we already know and trying to get fans worked up. Sure PG could make some additional money by resigning immediately, but that's just not smart business/economics.
To chime in that's why it's one big waiting game on Hayward. The technicality on what Boston can and can't do is based on the timing and order of the transaction. So signing Hayward has to be first
