I know Cousins has baggage but his trade should be used as a comparison pt when dealing with indy....so if its top 3 (especially if #1 pick) the offer should be top3/jc/moz/brewer for pg13/monta, with minor concessions like us adding hou 1st or future unprotected 1st. I know we all dog randle for his D but his dynamics on O can be vital ince we get stars like Pg13 here. Use left over $ on lowry/hill/teague type pg n move Ingram to bench
I just can’t sit here and believe that any GM with half a brain will look at the Cousins deal and use it as a barometer for future “all-star” talent trades. To say Cousins had baggage is like saying Lindsay Lohan “has some baggage.” You had people that worked close with the Kings that said they would have given the guy away he was so toxic. PG-13 dragged a team of Myles Turner, petrified dingleberries, and cow manure to the playoffs. He almost single handedly kept them in every single game of that Cleveland series. PG-13 is a better, more impactful player than Cousins just based off of on-the-court production. Add in all the off-the-court antics and you can’t even put the two in the same sentence. The only people that think Cousins should be used as the measuring stick for a Paul George trade are people that want to get away with murder on the Pacers. If you want to make the argument that the Lakers are in a unique position to get a better deal because of PG-13’s apparent infatuation with us, then I can buy that (only to a certain extent). But Cousins has nothing to do with this deal.
Well different players but circumstances favor one of the team for sure....sac was desperate and cousin has issues....indy could also be desperate after seeing what happened to durant, hell even Hayward could potentially leave Utah and get nothing. When i say use cousin trade as baramoter im more ref the actual talent lvl of players
i do agree that the cousins deal will be a reference point in trade negotiations, but obviously george's pricetag should be higher.
Well said. Very well said. One thing though, may we put them in the same sentence if we talk about their draft batch? Jk Sent from my E6533 using Tapatalk
Yeah it's like anything else, once the first one goes the market has precedent. I 100% guarantee you that from the Lakers' perspective, we're starting with a Cousins offer. Now, Indiana will obviously reject it, but that's the baseline of where we are. Add to that the other extenuating circumstances and our offer should be better... but not a lot better.
Plus the PG13 factor of more or less dictating to other teams he won't be signing an extension and most of the leverage is with the Lakers. JC + JR + Houston pick or if it's DLo then Indy has to take Deng or Moz
Any deal with Deng or Moz or both leaving and acquiring PG sounds good to me. Sent from my E6533 using Tapatalk
Rumor is Chicago wants more ready-made pieces. It'd probably take some of our more polished young guys, a pick, and maybe even one of our overpriced veterans. Keep in mind Butler is under contract until at least 2019 and has a player option for 2020. He has basically zero leverage to leave Chicago. If I were Chicago, I'd ask for Ingram, Future 1st or Julius Randle, Nance Jr., and then hopefully we can unload Deng as well.
i honestly wouldn't bother with butler. the fact that chicago's even considering moving him should give people pause, imo. reminds me of when boston was always trying to move rondo, and i couldn't understand why. he's giving near superstar production on what is a crazy value contract. you don't dangle that in trade negotiations, and you don't take pretty much anything the lakers have to offer in return for it.
Or maybe cause they dont think they can contend in the next 2yrs and want younger pieces? Rondo always had locker room rumor issues, even the Ray Allen story came out yrs before
am I the only one that thinks that's too much? 1 or the other + pieces? Sure. But as good as Butler looks sometimes, I can't convince myself to give up two Top 3 picks for him.
wouldn't it make more sense to sell everything but butler, though? and i feel like the butler rumblings are reminiscent of the rondo rumblings. seems like he grates on folks, despite his fantastic play.
Who else is good on that team though? I mean didnt we hear Pau trade rumors almost every season after the failed cp3 trade? I mean yes his play was declining but he wasnt causing issues as you seem to suggest bout Butler
There you go giving Russell up again, on top of Randle and Clarkson. Did he run over your cat or dog? NO2:
