D'Angelo Russell Discussion: Adopting A Professional Attitude

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  1. sirronstuff

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    Remember, Magic and Byron are friends, so Magic has heard all of the immature bonehead stories from Byron as well. If he doesn't pick up the play and become what Magic thinks we need, he is so gone.
     
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    I don't think Byron has time to talk to anyone, he has been hunting down a troll on Twitter who cost him his job.
     
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    :This:

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    You rang?

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    I don't think anybody is questioning D'Angelo's talent.
     
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    Sure goes a long way though in me wanting to have patience with him. When you see an explosion like the other night that's not a short glimpse but a whole game glimpse. That stuff doesn't grow on trees. At 20 years old. That's a hell of a lot to give up. We have some real smart, charismatic people coaching him now and in the FO evaluating him. Do whatever it takes to make sure he's not going to blow up somewhere else by exploring all ways with him here before thinking about trading him.
     
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    besides, i don't think tj mcconnell is even available.
     
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    This clown citing per36 stats. Lol.
     
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    If the Lakers trade D-Lo for anyone that isn't a true difference maker on any team he goes on in their primes, they will live to regret it. D-Lo will be a 25 point a game scorer. I would prefer 21-10 but that will depend on the offense and the horses around him.
     
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    Why stop there?

    DAR 32 ppg 10.5 reb 11 ast suck it Westbrook
     
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    At some point, you're only outing yourself.
     
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    Brandon Jennings scored 55 as a 20yr rookie, you guys reading to much into that 1 gm
     
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    Do you think that if BJ hadn't had his injury he'd be...anything less than an above average NBA player? He was 19-5.5-3.5 at 22 years old. Are you banking on DAR to have an Achilles injury?
     
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    What are you talking about? That 19/5/3 season was his 3rd yr and he got that achillies after getting traded to det....the 19/5/3 was in milw, after getting traded he was rougly doing 15/3/6....so if youre asking me if dlo will look like a 15/6/3 guy, sure if jennings did. But we talking bout him "exploding" hecause of a 40pt gm, no.


    Add to the pt, i bet lotta bucks fan were crying after jennings 19/5/3 season but he ended up being avg role player and bucks ended up getting a great 2 way wing in Middleton
     
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    What am I talking about? Brandon Jennings was a solid NBA player. And he had a very good season. And then he had an Achilles injury. The pre-Achilles injury player was good. The post-Achilles player isn't nearly the same guy; I mean, he might recover, but he hasn't done it so far. So I repeat: are you baking on DAR having an Achilles injury? If not, will he be "only as good" as BJ was? For the record, even in the season he had his injury, Jennings was 15.4, 6.6, 2.5. Russell is a better rebounder already than Jennings ever was. I'm not worried about that. He's scoring at an almost identical rate to Jennings - 15.5 vs. 15.4 at same age, but he's not the assist guy Jennings was. That's fine. Russ is also shooting a much better % from the field. Russ's PER is also more than a point higher.

    So here's what I'm saying: Russ is pretty obviously a better player than Jennings was, and Jennings was a solid NBA player before his injury. Being clearly better than solid is pretty darn good. No one is making too much of the 40-point game. To think that Russell's value comes from his 40-point game is to ignore the other 134 games he has played in his NBA career, many of which were really good.
     
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    Im just saying 1 gm doesnt guarantee anything and jennings was progressively getting worse each season after he got trade...i meant to add another pt, im sure buck fans were salty after seeing jennings 19/5/3 season and then getting traded but guess what bucks ended up getting an even better player in middleton who at one point couldve been considered a top 5 2 way wing player before his injury
     
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    If you think that anyone is saying, "Russ had the 40-point game, so here's what he is," you're missing his career so far. It's not one game. It's a body of work. Russ is really good. Amazingly good for his age. Not all such players pan out. Some are only pretty good. Some differ injuries. But to sell him short is a huge mistake.
     
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    Not selling him short but also not gona hop on the hype train either...there still parts of his gm that he lacks that I dont think he'll develop, like ability to take the paint with great handles or speed, steph/wall type. The handles part could come, the speed/athelticism to take paint like wall will never come and for all hate jc gets for being bad on d, dlo is equally as bad
     
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    Is Wall a good defender? Is Curry? Is Lillard.

    No. None of these guys are.

    Unless you're Patrick Beverly, Avery Bradley or Marcus Smart, defense from a point guard is a moot point.

    D'Angelo has been fine taking it to the paint. He effectively uses screens and is consistent from the midrange enough to where it's pretty much a layup. He doesn't need to have elite speed or athleticism, we knew that about him out of college. What's the point here?
     
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