Star Wars Thread (a Galaxy Far Far Away) Obi-Wan Movie In The Works! (36)

I have some faith. They did a great job with Rogue One of respecting the original material and building around it. I think they'll get it right.

 

Spoiler: Rebels

They don't NEED to die, but in order to make Rogue One and A New Hope more impactful, they should. In Rogue One the Rebels are supposed to be desperate, on the ropes. They're willing to stoop to murdering Saw Guererra when he becomes an issue. They throw everything they have at these plans that may or may not even have the information they want/need. To get to that point we need to see the Rebels start taking hits. One way to do that is kill characters. I'm not saying kill Kanan and Ezra right away or anything, but someone like Zeb? Maybe Sabine?

 

Spoiler: Rebles <---Swaggy reference

I agree that they should die for the overall story. But what is Disney's goal with Rebels? Is it to introduce a new generation of fans to Star Wars? If so, killing them would not make the most sense. In the end, the business side of this will likely win out. So is it more important to cater to the adults who watch Rebels and are deep into the movies and the canon as a whole, or is it more important to not alienate the new young fans they are attempting to groom? I tend to think they will side with the later.

Kingsama - You bring up a good point with the Bendu. That might be the way out for them. They become Bendus and flee to beyond the outer rim. And I agree that Kanan isn't all that powerful, but I think Ezra is very powerful. He faced Vader that one time with basically a few months of training. We have seen the leap he made from season 2 to 3 in terms of his skill and he's still very "young" in the force. Is he Skywalker powerful? Of course not. But I think if he were born in the Republic 30 years earlier, he could have been Qui-Gon powerful.

 

I would be surprised if they wrapped Skywalker, but you might be right. With the untimely and unfortunate death of Carrie Fisher, I would think long and hard about ending the Skywalker line with Luke and whatever kids he or Leia might have had. It would be an interesting way to end that arc, but at the same time the Skywalker legacy is almost everything to Star Wars. For decades it's been the focal point of the EU.

The truth is though they'll avoid killing most characters because they want those stories available to be told.

 

I think episode 9 might wrap up the Skywalker legacy because like Kingsama, I think Rey's a Kenobi and she will likely be the only character moving forward that has a prominent role. Kylo has to die. They can't do a Skywalker redemption story...again. I hope they hit up the Old Republic. Revan needs to be brought to film.

 

I don't think unauthentic. If say the Skywalker generation was responsible for balancing (or I guess also unbalancing) the Force, then they'd stay important. In the EU they were a staple of the universe for 30-40 years. I'm not saying they'll be making Skywalker movies that long, but I wouldn't be so quick to assume Lucas/Disney are eager to move on. Diversify, sure, but I'm not sure they're trying to fade the Skywalkers that quickly.

I would also be surprised if they hung up this cast after one trilogy if the trilogy progresses as expected.

What they could do is put out Old Republic movies every other year and Skywalker movies every other year. Personally, I want to see more anthologies. I thought Rogue One was cool and I'd love to see other such stories.

I'm not sure what to do with Kylo. I can't imagine he stays evil and doesn't have a moment of redemption. I think that has to be coming eventually. I'm not saying the universe he's in pardons him or anything, but I think they'll want fans to appreciate him as a complicated character.

 

The cast may not be hung up, but unless Rey is a Skywalker, I think the Skywalkers may be done after 9. Kylo likely dies at the end of episode 9 and Leia is definitely gone. That leaves an old Luke? You almost have to kill him because (imo) Luke is too big to just play a mentor role in the background. He's Luke f---ing Skywalker. But you are right with Rey. Unless there is some huge twist where Rey goes dark and they have to kill her in Episode 9, I think they use her for a lot more films. They eventually have to rebuild the Jedi order too. They can't string along this 2-3 Jedi in the galaxy thing too long. Rey will be a part of that rebuild.

 

I definitely am picturing something along those lines. We'll see what happens with the Skywalkers.

What I'd like to see is the Jedi/Sith wars from the Old Republic, a young Yoda story, the Yuzhon Vong story... Chewie getting crushed by a moon. That was an epic death.

 

If they just did the Revan story line on screen, I would leak pee daily. Chewie better die via moon poisoning.

 

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/he...how-star-wars-will-handle-leias-future-960849

Like I said before, obviously the loss of lives here is what is most tragic, but as a hardcore SW fan I can't help but think about some of the meaningful scenes we are going to miss out on with Leia now, how her character is probably not going to get the ending she deserves. I think if Kylo is going to be redeemed at all, Leia was going to be the reason, and we're going to now be deprived of scenes with some real weight, some that could have been the best the franchise ever gave us. It's tragedy on multiple levels. And no, I don't think they should CGI her in like with Tarkin, it's too soon, but to have her death thrown in as a line, oh she died offscreen, they can't do just that IMO, it's not good enough, they have to find a way to handle this properly.

 

I think the CGI thing will be OK by the time Episode IX comes out. It's really raw right now having only been a couple weeks, especially with the end of Rogue One being out there in theaters when it happened. But Ep. IX is 3 years away. I think most of us will be OK with CGI by that time. Not saying we'll embrace it, but it won't be crazy inappropriate by that time. Now, I don't think they should look to replace whatever part she was going to have in Episode IX (as it is said to be bigger than her role in Ep. VIII which is bigger than her role in Ep. VII), but if they can somehow bring her in for a "Tarkin level" appearance, I think most will accept it as the best option in a multitude of bad options.

 

I don't know man. I think I'd prefer if they wrote her out. Partly on ethical and moral grounds, but also because I'm not sure I want to look at a CGI Carrie Fisher doing all the scenes the real Carrie Fisher would have done. I don't want to watch a CGI Carrie having all these extreme, intimate moments on screen with all the different characters it would just seem weird.

 

Not sure if you misunderstood, but I wasn't saying to have her do the same scenes. I was saying you'd have to completely change her role and give CGI Carrie a few minor scenes just to send her off into the sunset. I don't really have a "moral" problem with it as I don't think it's a "moral" issue. It's more of an issue of poor taste. But simply writing her out and having Princess Leia, possibly the most iconic heroine in film history, die off screen or decide she wants to retire on Naboo is probably worse than allowing her to do something more fitting. It's going to be a gigantic elephant in the room regardless. Another thing to consider is it may be near impossible NOT to have CGI Leia in Episode IX. We don't know where we are going to be left at in Ep. VIII. If it's some sort of Leia-centric cliff hanger, what do you do? If I were a betting man, I'd say they will use a CGI Carrie to finish her story. Whether it be a reshoot to end Ep. VIII or a quick 2 or 3 scene wrap up in Ep. IX.

 

I do think it's a moral and ethical dilemma. For one thing, this is a Pandora's box in terms of using dead actors and actresses instead of new ones. I think it's very easily to handle this poorly. It worked with Tarkin, but it's not something I want to see more of.

You may end up being right that they have to CGI her a little bit, but I'm not a fan of it.

 

I like it, leaves lots of room for speculation. Is it Luke? Is it Rey? Is it neither or both and in fact a plural? Is Luke the true last Jedi and Rey doesn't become one but instead becomes something new, in the same sort of way that Snoke and Kyle Ren are dark side force users, but not actual Sith? Can't wait for the first trailer for this.