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  1. RasAlgethi

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    I'm with Trodgers, I think people are too hard on Russ. He's doing great overall for a 2nd year player.
     
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    my goodness a grown a** man vs an adolescent :dwightcrying:
     
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    I think Russ has all the tools physically. Just needs to decide if he wants to be cool or a good basketball player. At this point flair is trumping results. He could become very good the minute he decides to play hard every second and not worry about how he looks or is perceived.
     
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    You ever notice how he kinda looks away like a no look pass for no reason on a simple chest pass to the center at the top of the key just getting into an offensive set? Wtf is that?
     
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    Everyone is talking about his lack of offense against Utah, but his defense was really good - at least Luke thought it was as well

     
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    I don't believe D-Russ will be what we want him to be until year 4, possibly year 5. So, we are talking a bout at age 23, D-Russ should be in full stride with his skill set. I think Brandon Ingram will have a Kawhi Leonard trajectory. Randle, I really don't know what his ceiling is. I really have never seen a guy with his skill set since the 90's. It is a blend of Barkley and Anthony Mason. Not as dominant as Barkley but just as awkward as Mason. M hope is he ends up being a top 5 rebounder in the league for years who can bring up the ball a lot. That would be great on a title team.
     
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    Was watching the Raptors-Warriors game last night and watching Kyle Lowry made be think about player development and how he's a perfect example of a player who is just a late bloomer. This year and last he has been excellent and it's also been his 9th and 10th years. My point is that with some players their development isn't going to come in a 3-5 year window before they become what they truly will be.

    I'm not saying Russell is going to be like Lowry in that we won't see the best of him until years 9 or 10, but rather the scope of time is something to be aware of with certain NBA players. I also think the system and fit with a particular team play a substantial part of a players effectiveness. Toronto is the place where Lowry finally was able to solidify and starting spot and flourish.

    Just some food for thought, but I think D'Angelo is in the perfect system under Walton and we have a lot to look forward to in the future.
     
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    Meh ... He has no explosion and can't jump ... I'm worried about it long term
     
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    I know hes young but not a fan on DLO
     
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    he's NOT a PG....
     
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    Am i still the crazy guy to say I never thought this kid will be a SUPERstar ? It caused a CrapStorm the last year when I said he will be lucky to make a few all star games.
     
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    I think he's doing ok, i just think people over hyped him. "can pass like magic" "plays like steph".
     
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    On a game night Russell is laying more bricks than your average construction worker.
     
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    We'll see in a few years . I agree Lakers fans and Lakers "experts" on twitter are too high on him .

    He'll get better but as of now I fail to see a player who will have championship level impact on a team in the making .

    Hopefully DAR will prove me wrong
     
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    How many of those "championship" players do we have in the NBA?

    LeBron, Westbrook, Durant, Curry, Davis...thats pretty much it. Harden, Chris Paul, Leonard etc. are not on the same level.

    Guys like Giannis or Towns are in the making but ultimately remain to be seen. Thats pretty much it. Within 400 players in the NBA there are like 10 that are what you described. I'm 100% sure Russell is not one of those 5 elite transcendent players in the NBA and never will. He doesn't have the athleticism or isn't particularly great at anything to warrant that.

    The ceiling to me right now is more becoming an all-star...even guys like Milsap, Al Hordforf or Isiah Thomas make all-star teams. Even Kyle freakin Korver is a former all-star.
     
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    His lack of urgency is a real problem.
     
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    yeah, real superstars are so incredibly rare. it's mostly luck when you get one. the lakers have almost always had one, so fans don't understand what most franchises go through. i'm guilty of it, too.

    but russell actually looks quite good for a 20 year old second year player, particularly as a starting pg. it's not common for players this young to be good at that position.

    that said, it's pretty clear he's not going to be a franchise-altering player. not sure why that should lead to despair. they come along once every few years, and you can't always be fortunate enough to be in the right place and time to snag one. gotta hit some singles and doubles while hoping for that big one, and russell is certainly a good prospect with allstar potential.

    the climb back up is going to be a long one, much longer than i think most people are expecting.
     
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    By level championship level impact , I don't only mean superstars , I mean players who have to be surrounded by these elite players to win a title but still are very good in some areas impact wise .

    Draymond Green is one of those , Millsap on a better team would be to ... Blake Griffin isn't
     
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    1)Because as a fan I'd like my team to win more titles and have more than the celtpricks . We won't do this without a franchise player and it will be harder and harder to acquire one through free agency/trades. Those guys are in a much better position than us bth

    2) I agree , this is why it's depressing ...
     
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    the C Bags aren't really that close to a title either, if that's your bar. they have no superstar and have to hope to hit the lotto (via bkn) AND make the right pick in order to get one, and by the time that guy's ready, this group will have aged out. i suppose they could trade the pick, but i don't think there's a prime allstar to be had for that pick right now.

    yes, it does suck, though.
     

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