2016 Season Stats And Whatnot

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  1. sirronstuff

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    I'm a simple guy, and watch for entertainment.

    If we play well, I'm happy and cheer. If we don't play well, ...

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    Gorilla poo flinging now??

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    you'd prefer guerilla pool flinging?
     
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    any dish is as good as its ingredients. in the case of composite statistics, you have to feel good about the constituents, all of which have their own flaws. i applaud rodg for working at what i consider to be a relatively sisyphean task. it give us things to think and talk about, even if we're not sure of whether it's capturing the essence of basketball "goodness".
     
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    LOL ..... had to go to the dictionary to look up that "sissy" word. :p

    But I agree. Here's another round for trodgers

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    Positional Efficiency (Through seven games)
    Disclaimer A) Super limited minutes for everyone.
    Disclaimer B) This is what I consider the "offensive" player stat.
    Disclaimer C) * means that the player's stats are projected in at least one area because they haven't recorded a positive stat in an area (for instance, if you haven't handed out an assist, I give you 1/2 an assist to calculate your passing efficiency).

    PG
    Russell 85
    Huertas 84

    Calderon 69

    Wing
    Russell 84
    Williams 74
    Young 71

    Clarkson 68
    Ingram 56
    Brown 51
    Deng 43
    Peace 11*

    BIG
    Robinson 105*
    Black 92
    Nance 78

    Mozgov 68
    Randle 65
    Zubac 61
    Peace 32*
    Yi 27

    I'd like to see Robinson make the team. His hustle stat is off the charts. Clarkson off the pine might not be a bad thing. It might end up putting the ball in his hands a bit more, which is a good thing. Peace has to go.
     
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    I'd roll with these 15, in no particular order:

    Russell/Clarkson/Deng/Randle/Mozgov
    Huertas/Ingram/Young/Nance/Black
    Calderon/Williams/Brown/Robinson/Zubac

    Peace and Yi can step. Peace doesn't play anyway, and he really can't. And Yi - I mean, I don't know what to say.
     
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    Agreed.
     
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    Robinson is an elite rebounder. I love his hustle and energy.
     
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    Positional Efficiency (all preseason games)
    Disclaimer A) Super limited minutes for everyone.
    Disclaimer B) This is what I consider the "offensive" player stat.
    Disclaimer C) * means that the player's stats are projected in at least one area because they haven't recorded a positive stat in an area (for instance, if you haven't handed out an assist, I give you 1/2 an assist to calculate your passing efficiency).

    PG
    Huertas 87
    Russell 86
    Williams 72
    Calderon 69

    Wing
    Russell 84
    Williams 73
    Clarkson 67
    Young 64
    Ingram 54
    Brown 50
    Deng 43
    Peace 11*

    BIG
    Robinson 109*
    Black 87
    Nance 77
    Mozgov 68
    Randle 67
    Zubac 67
    Yi 39
    Peace 32*

    Preseason Leaders
    SCORING: Russell 6.37, Young 6.30, Clarkson 6.20
    PASSING: Huertas 4.61, Calderon 3.87, Russell 3.72
    HUSTLE: Robinson 4.71, Black 3.56, Peace 3.54****, Nance 3.35

    **** - this is only 10 minutes worth of data.
     
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    Point Guard
    Williams
    88
    Huertas 75
    Russell 74
    Clarkson 52

    WING
    Williams 87

    Randle 76
    Russell 73
    Clarkson 61
    Young 51
    Ingram 50
    Nance 45
    Deng 40

    BIG
    Mozgov 85
    Randle 80

    Nance 65
    Deng 60
     
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    Look at Lotus Flower moving on UP.



    Lotus Flower being Julius for new peeps at LB wondering WTF is he talking about. It came out randomly in an interview last year and jumped on here. It fits him well actually. I see "delicate" in the way he plays. Yeah. :Crazyartest:
     
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    * - these are estimated because the player doesn't have an assist.

    Point Guard
    Williams 91
    Russell 83
    Huertas 75
    Calderon 58
    Clarkson 54
    TEAM 62

    Wing
    Williams 91
    Russell 81
    Randle 68
    Clarkson 63
    Nance 57
    Young 54
    Deng 50
    Ingram 43
    Peace 35*

    BIG
    Nance 86
    Mozgov 81
    Black 76
    Randle 75
    Deng 71
    Zubac 59*
    Peace 49*

    Points Per Possession
    Randle 1.42
    Williams 1.40
    Black 1.25
    Calderon 1.23
    Young 1.18
    TEAM 1.17
    Russell 1.16
    Nance 1.15
    Huertas 1.13
    Mozgov 1.08
    Deng 1.04
    Ingram 1.00
    Peace 1.00
    Clarkson 0.99
    Robinson 0.00
     
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    Sweet Lou is tearing it up. Let's can any and all getting rid of him talk. The guy is playing great for the 6th man type of player he is.
     
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    Luke is using Lou correctly unlike someone who tried making him the creating PG.
     
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    Point Guard
    Williams 92+
    Russell 86+++
    Huertas 75
    Calderon 58
    Clarkson 64
    TEAM 62

    Wing
    Williams 93++
    Russell 83++
    Clarkson 64
    Nance 58+
    Young 57+++
    Ingram 51++++++++
    Deng 50
    Peace 35*

    BIG
    Nance 85-
    Randle 83++++++++
    Mozgov 82+
    Black 72----
    Deng 68---
    Zubac 56---*
    Peace 49*

    Points Per Possession*
    A few of these were off a little bit bc I didn't add in FTs for some guys - like Metta.

    Williams 1.33
    Randle 1.26
    Nance 1.24
    Russell 1.17
    Young 1.17
    TEAM 1.14
    Huertas 1.13
    Calderon 1.13
    Mozgov 1.11
    Black 1.11
    Ingram 1.01
    Clarkson 0.98
    Deng 0.97
    Peace 0.50
    Robinson 0.00
     
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    The funny thing is that in addition to shooting way above his career average, he's handing out a career high assists.
     
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    So here's my Win Projection so far: 33 wins (this one is based on stats).
    (This is different from my prediction, which is 29; this one is subjective, and I posted it in the win thread.)

    A few things about this number: my stat becomes increasingly accurate as the season wears on (a good stat should be able to correct as it goes to accommodate unforeseen things). The win projection total has ranged from 24 to 39 so far.

    2015/16
    Last season, the projection got to within 5 games of the Lakers' actual wins (17) by game number 6 on the season. This means that after game six, the win projection was never outside 17 +/-5. By game 28 it was within 3, so the prediction never was outside 17 +/-3. It got to within 1 by game 51, so after that point it was never outside 17 +/-1.

    2014/15
    In 2014/15, it was within 1 game by game 44 on the season; within 3 games by game 41; and within 5 games by game 39 (but it was within 5.09 by game 12).

    Given all that, I'd narrow the range of wins to 26-40 right now, and in another half a dozen games, we should have it down to within 5.
     
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