I love Faried in general, but Randal has the potential to be one of the best rebounders in the game now, and he's so young that the sky's the limit in that area. I actually like Harris, but he still doesn't make this trade for me. It boiles down to the fact that I'm not looking to get better now. Due to the Warriors super team, and the youth of our best players, every move we make needs to be aimed at 4-5 years down the line. Does this move make us better 5 years from now? Maybe, but I wouldn't bet against Randal making us look silly for trading him before we can even see him play under a decent coach.
I would consider it just to get rid of Nick. Getting rid of Nick is addition by subtraction. I want to be rid of all of the stench of our losing past 4 years and he's the last one.
Yes, we get rid of Young which is the saving grace of all this. I like Faried but Randle's potential is hard to give up.
I'm not giving up a great young asset just to get rid of Nick. Faried is better than Julius today, but that could change as early as this season. I like Harris, but where exactly does he fit on the team? With Clarkson, Lou, Ingram, and Deng on the team there's not really any time for him. I don't buy it.
Interesting proposition.. I'm sorta neutral on it. I like Randle, but I'm not 100% confident about his potential. With Faried, we get a consistent player that hustles on both ends of the floor. We get rid of Swaggy P.. & we get a Backup PG that isn't in their mid Thirties...
Julius out rebounded Faried last year per game, overall, and per 100 possessions. The only way in which Kenneth is 100% better is offensive efficiency. He's a pretty comparable defender and works harder on the offensive glass. They're comparable players as it is, but Julius has shown flashes of improving while Faried has shown basically everything he's going to be. Gary Harris is not remotely a PG. He's a SG through and through. He's a solid SG, but with Lou on the team there's no room for him to get minutes behind Clarkson and occasionally D'Angelo too. It'd be a waste unless we find a way to dump Lou's contract.
I'm with you in general, but Faried is a better offensive rebounder per 36, and he's 1 worse overall per 36. Meanwhile, he's a much more efficient scorer. And he's clearly a better defender. I like everything I hear about Julius's character and as a teammate, so he clearly offers a lot more than just elite rebounding. Still, I won't weep if it doesn't happen, but I wouldn't mind rolling the dice here.
I don't know if your joking or not, but I don't buy that teams will want Nick Young. We have basically grabbed Nick, put him on the corner of the street, and put a "Free" sign on his this past year with no takers.
As bad as people say Randle's shot is. I think its already better than Faired's. Faired to me can't get that much better overall. Where as Randle..... the ceiling is still unknown as technically a 2nd year player. Randle rebounded better (last year at least), can put the ball on the floor better, and is a better passer. Faried is just a better scorer around the basket right now in my opinion.
Actually I'm somewhat serious... You never know if some GM out there will say they can use him for some role. The NBA is at times about taking gambles.
http://vorped.com/1-nba/2015-2016/player/1319/kenneth-faried/shotchart/ http://vorped.com/1-nba/2015-2016/player/1772/julius-randle/shotchart/ yes, randle can improve and faried likely is who he is. but who he is is a better player on both ends right now. it's a sensible trade discussion for both sides. gary harris doesn't suck, and nick young has negative trade value, so (assuming the principals are being truthfully reported) the teams are suggesting that randle is clearly more valuable than faried. it's a tough call to me. i'll say that if randle doesn't dramatically improve this season, a deal like this won't be on the table next summer. maybe that's ok, though, as faried doesn't push the lakers into the playoff picture. ironically, what made faried overrated in the first place (highlight dunks and blocks) are kinda why i like him in a support role. imagine dlo running screen/roll with a guy who can finish like faried. imagine a pf who has some sense of defensive court awareness. in all, i could be persuaded either way, which probably means it's a pretty fair trade.
Mozgov Faried Deng Clarkson Russell Not a playoff team most likely. Not sure I see a reason to make the move, unless the Lakers feel one more year will remove all doubt or hope about Randle having a higher ceiling.
Harris is no scrub. Russell/Calderon Clarkson/Harris Deng/Ingram Faried/Nance Mozgov/Zubac/Black Move Lou for a pick at the deadline. Even a second rounder. I think it loses little in upside and is a better team all around from day one.
trust me, i know faried is a workhorse. plays way bigger than he is, rebounding machine when he wants to be and multiple second chance opportunities and he slams the ball like NBA players should. I've had him for the past 3 years in fantasy basketball and he is ALWAYS injured. . also for whatever reason only averages like 20-25 mins per game i think that's on denver coach. . he really is injury prone and for that reason alone I wouldn't make the trade. Harris is a young stud/scoring 2 though who plays a ton of minutes and can score a lot of points. i say horrible because we can get better assets than this even while giving up nick young too.
