Ivica Zubac Discussion: Zu's Gonna Clip

Discussion in 'NBA Discussion' started by Lakers2015, Jun 23, 2016.

  1. Savory Griddles

    Savory Griddles Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2014
    Messages:
    9,169
    Likes Received:
    22,447
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    As much as I like it, I honestly see our starting lineup for our next title run (I say run because who knows if it will be an actual title)

    Zubac
    Nance
    Ingram
    ?
    Russell

    With Clarkson as the only bench guy currently on the roster.

    Randle worries me in that we lost a season of evaluation. He's a mere two seasons away from us having to decide on a max deal for him. I actually have a lot of faith that Nance may end up being close to Randle (in the overall impact of the game, obviously not the same type of player), and we may let Randle walk or trade him for a better fitting piece.
     
  2. therealdeal

    therealdeal Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2014
    Messages:
    28,475
    Likes Received:
    62,062
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    I don't see the missed season on Randle being a negative at all. In fact it may drive his price down a bit. Probably not though considering he's the only one of the young kids to have shown anything of an elite talent in the NBA. We're all very enamored with Nance Jr. after his terrific play in Summer League, but seeing his effectiveness here makes me think Julius might have 30 rebounds in one of these games. Clarkson might have 40 points in one of these games if he got the ball as much as D'Angelo has gotten it.
     
    Barnstable likes this.
  3. Savory Griddles

    Savory Griddles Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2014
    Messages:
    9,169
    Likes Received:
    22,447
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    In my defense I was saying stuff like this before summer league. Things like Randle might be more expendable than the others because we have Nance who could end up being just as impactful in a different way. ;) But I still wonder if we will be able to keep both in 3 years, unless Nance can become versatile enough to play minutes at the 3,4 and 5.
     
  4. Doc Brown

    Doc Brown - Lakers Starter -

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2014
    Messages:
    2,571
    Likes Received:
    11,517
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Doctorin'
    Location:
    Hill Valley
    Offline
    LAWD HAVE MERCY if this kid starts poppin' 3 pointers. As more and more information comes out about him and the more I see him play, it's like how can this kid NOT have been selected in the 15-25 range?

    What am I missing here? I know he's had a bit of injury history, but there's been a lot less talented players taken in that range over the years. You know what, I don't care what I'm missing, Zublacca do your thing boss.
     
  5. CaCHooKa Man

    CaCHooKa Man Administrator: Media Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2014
    Messages:
    1,050
    Likes Received:
    4,126
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Los Angeles
    Offline
    Teams didn't want to draft him because he wanted to come to the NBA right away. The Lakers were one of the few, if not only, teams that guaranteed that they wouldn't stash him in Europe for a few years. His buyout price was fairly low so that wasn't an issue. Teams just weren't ready to go all in on a 19 year old Euro player. He also only worked out with a couple teams.
     
    JSM, jbiggs, John3:16 and 2 others like this.
  6. therealdeal

    therealdeal Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2014
    Messages:
    28,475
    Likes Received:
    62,062
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    But @Doc Brown has a good point about injury. It couldn't have possibly been an injury thing right? I mean hell Caris LeVert went in the first freaking round. I don't know what teams were doubting, but I'm glad they did. He looks like a steal so far.
     
  7. Barnstable

    Barnstable Supreme Fuzzler of Lakersball.com Staff Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2014
    Messages:
    7,338
    Likes Received:
    18,986
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Los Angeles
    Offline
    So Shaw just said Zublaca was #16 on our draft board, so it's amazing we got him at 32 in the 2nd round
     
    JSM, jbiggs, lakersyunowin and 5 others like this.
  8. John3:16

    John3:16 Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    6,590
    Likes Received:
    15,642
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    CEO - Big Baller Brand
    Offline
    I saw that. Mitch hit a HR with this pick. Wish I could see him and Moz go at it in practice.
     
  9. Helljumper

    Helljumper - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    4,941
    Likes Received:
    14,732
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Student
    Location:
    Los Angeles
    Offline
    Throw this kid into the fire. I really like Tarik and I've come around to Mozgov, but this kid has the kinda size and touch that hasn't been seen in the league for a while. I really hope he gets significant playing time next season.
     
  10. Khmrp

    Khmrp - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2016
    Messages:
    12,193
    Likes Received:
    13,921
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    I don't even see black as a legit backup C, so I would hope Zuuuu can carry on this momentum into pre-season and just completly over take black for all of the backup C minutes.
     
  11. SFGOLDRUSHER

    SFGOLDRUSHER - Lakers Starter -

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2014
    Messages:
    3,094
    Likes Received:
    2,181
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Master Optimist.
    Location:
    San Diego
    Offline
    I love the fact he came and grew up in Europe.. Obviously you can tell he's a smart kid. I know as he keeps developing his game&gets more explosive, adding lean mass as he lowers his body fat, he's gonna piece it all together for a great C.
     
    LTLakerFan likes this.
  12. SFGOLDRUSHER

    SFGOLDRUSHER - Lakers Starter -

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2014
    Messages:
    3,094
    Likes Received:
    2,181
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Master Optimist.
    Location:
    San Diego
    Offline
    Also, it's a great problem to have if Zuzu challenges hopefully, an improved T-bo.
     
    LTLakerFan likes this.
  13. abeer3

    abeer3 - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    29,258
    Likes Received:
    79,343
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    really nice game in the last one. but i do think it's going to be a big adjustment for him to play with the big boys, literally and figuratively.
     
    gcclaker, Barnstable and therealdeal like this.
  14. LTLakerFan

    LTLakerFan - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    37,531
    Likes Received:
    62,601
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    So Cal
    Offline
    Great thing is Mozzie is going to speed up his development tremendously. And the other Timmy will make him faster, stronger and more exlosive. Some tangible % by start of the season. Literally starting from ground zero in that regard and has 3 months with the first wookie in the NBA.

    So picture him not as he is now, but smarter, more prepared and a "little" faster, stronger, more explosive.

    :Magic Brows:
     
  15. therealdeal

    therealdeal Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2014
    Messages:
    28,475
    Likes Received:
    62,062
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Agreed. Having Mozgov around in practice should help both as a practice opponent and as a role model.
     
    lakerjones and LTLakerFan like this.
  16. gcclaker

    gcclaker Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    9,245
    Likes Received:
    21,123
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Wherever I am at the moment...
    Offline
    Absolutely...only the most illogical fans would say otherwise. Zu had that one turn around shot last night where he went glass to drop it in. Nice. One swat where Brown fouled negated it. He did not play in the fourth instead Auguste got the burn.
     
    therealdeal likes this.
  17. Savory Griddles

    Savory Griddles Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2014
    Messages:
    9,169
    Likes Received:
    22,447
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    He has been the surprise of the summer league. I remember on draft night people were surprised he dropped to us and people were saying it was a steal. But now we got to see first hand that we may have drafted our center for the next 10 years. I mean, not saying it's a done deal. Probably still a greater than 50% chance he ends up being a career journeyman. But we certainly were not thinking there was a chance we could have gotten a player that MIGHT be that guy at 32.
     
    Barnstable and therealdeal like this.
  18. LTLakerFan

    LTLakerFan - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    37,531
    Likes Received:
    62,601
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    So Cal
    Offline
    There were some more plays last night in this Summer League coming out party for one of..... if not THE steal(s) of the draft ..... [​IMG] ..... that he just flat out looks more advanced than his rookie 19 year old never worked out with weights self. I think it's a combo of he has been on his own away from family since 15 because he loves the game and has been working his a** alone learning from clips of guys like Marc Gasol just like Kobe studied clips of Jordan before he became a rookie. And especially because at the end in Europe he was already playing against the roughness of full grown men pounding on him and him giving it back because of his size and coordination, even if they weren't as big as what he's going to face this year in the NBA. I think against 2nd stringers he will continue in an upward arc like Bynum used to get on, of these glimpses of domination. PLUS the kid is thrilled out of his gourd to be a Laker.

    Luke call up Kobe and ask that favor, come by practice once in awhile and work with this kid and any others who want it with that elite footwork in the post area. Can you imagine how high Zu would be to have Kobe work with him? Randle and DAR and Clarkson and Nance have already had the good fortune last 2 years year to learn from him up close and during games.

    It's my dream anyway that the Lakers and Kobe set something up like this very part time when Kob's in town and in the mood for some activity at his old stomping grounds. Talk a little smack with the boys too and scrimmage some with them.

    :Headbang:
     
    jbiggs likes this.
  19. OX1947

    OX1947 - Lakers MVP -

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2016
    Messages:
    8,397
    Likes Received:
    17,872
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Lakers are worth 2.7 Billion. Yes. Recent Forbes list. Lakers get paid 200 million a year from Time Warner, alone. If the Lakers have to max out 5 guys in the next 3 or 4 years, and it means they are winning titles, Lakers fans have nothing to worry about.
     
  20. Doc Brown

    Doc Brown - Lakers Starter -

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2014
    Messages:
    2,571
    Likes Received:
    11,517
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Doctorin'
    Location:
    Hill Valley
    Offline
    From this point on....

    Zublacca - 4 years / 64 million
    Mozgov - 3 years / 3 million (QO in 4th year)

    Way to lock Zublacca up Mitch at a discount and get Moz for insurance on a cheap deal.
     
    jbiggs, Barnstable and ZenMaster like this.

Share This Page