Lonzo Ball Discussion: Worthy Said What Now?

Discussion in 'Lakers Discussion' started by OmarE, Jun 22, 2017.

  1. wallangong

    wallangong - Rookie -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    502
    Likes Received:
    1,150
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Offline
    Ahhh ok on tv and whatnot all they talk about is whether or not they should televise the captains drafting the players so I lost sight of the fact that nothing else about the selection process has changed.
     
  2. lakerjones

    lakerjones Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2014
    Messages:
    3,904
    Likes Received:
    7,766
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    La La land
    Offline
    It's uncanny. Basically, you can't teach much of what is pure instinct for Lonzo. Bottom line, I haven't seen the kind of passing Lonzo has a gift for since Jason Kidd. That comparisons stands for me. It has nothing to do with hyperbole, skin color, or anything else. I'm not saying Lonzo is the next Kidd. I'm not saying he'll be as great as Kidd. I'm just talking about what I see on the court. I saw it at UCLA too.
     
  3. Battle Tested20

    Battle Tested20 - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    5,169
    Likes Received:
    9,173
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    eMoney Advisor
    Location:
    San Diego, CA
    Offline
    Been said plenty of times already but he's going to be special

     
  4. therealdeal

    therealdeal Moderator Staff Member

    Top Poster Of Month

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2014
    Messages:
    22,622
    Likes Received:
    41,211
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    To fully extrapolate those numbers:

    LeBron James first 34 games (age 18-19):
    19.9 points
    5.9 rebounds
    6.2 assists
    1.5 steals
    0.7 blocks
    42.2 FG%
    28.3 3PT%
    76.5 FT%
    18 FGA/gm
    3.9 TOs
    40.1 minutes per game

    Lonzo Ball first 34 games (age 19-20):
    10 points
    7.1 rebounds
    7.1 assists
    1.5 steals
    0.9 blocks
    34.9 FG%
    29.8 3PT%
    48.0 FT%
    11 FGA/gm
    2.7 TOs
    33.6 minutes per game
     
  5. Kenzo

    Kenzo - Lakers Starter -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    2,823
    Likes Received:
    3,784
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Poland
    Offline
    48% FT?!?! Pathetic for a guard. Pathetic for any "pro" baller actually.
     
    432J, sirronstuff, Cookie and 3 others like this.
  6. Battle Tested20

    Battle Tested20 - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    5,169
    Likes Received:
    9,173
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    eMoney Advisor
    Location:
    San Diego, CA
    Offline
    Haha, "Think about what your saying bro, its stupid"

     
    sirronstuff and LTLakerFan like this.
  7. lakerfan2

    lakerfan2 - Lakers Starter -

    Joined:
    Oct 8, 2014
    Messages:
    3,232
    Likes Received:
    4,584
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Simi Valley
    Offline
    Lonzo is the glue to this team.

    It’s so apparent when he’s off the court, the offense becomes stagnant.

    His rebounding is crucial to pushing the pace, plays smart defense, and he does everything on the court well.
     
    Toklat, Cookie, therealdeal and 4 others like this.
  8. Weezy

    Weezy Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    6,833
    Likes Received:
    19,436
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Anaheim
    Offline
    The team is also so much more watchable when he’s out there. When he doesn’t play I almost don’t want to tune in because I know the chances of an ugly game go up.
     
  9. Jaguar

    Jaguar - Rookie -

    Joined:
    May 26, 2016
    Messages:
    554
    Likes Received:
    657
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Offline
    Passing lanes ain’t safe when Zo is out there.
     
  10. KareemtheGreat33

    KareemtheGreat33 - Lakers Starter -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    3,743
    Likes Received:
    5,354
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Gonzo for Lonzo
    Location:
    Las Islas Filipinas
    Offline
  11. KareemtheGreat33

    KareemtheGreat33 - Lakers Starter -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    3,743
    Likes Received:
    5,354
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Gonzo for Lonzo
    Location:
    Las Islas Filipinas
    Offline
  12. JohnnyComeLately2k6

    JohnnyComeLately2k6 - Rookie -

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2014
    Messages:
    65
    Likes Received:
    261
    Trophy Points:
    53
    Occupation:
    Padawan Data Scientist
    Location:
    Global City
    Offline
     
    Cookie, LTLakerFan and lakerjones like this.
  13. Weezy

    Weezy Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    6,833
    Likes Received:
    19,436
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Anaheim
    Offline
    Those steals though. I had hoped that would carry over from college because his man defense wasn’t that great, but it’s still a pleasant surprise just how well it has, and how well he reads where passes are going to go to get a hand on them. His all-around game is the best it’s been all season at this point, he looks more confident, and like he himself has said, like he’s out there trying to have fun playing.
     
  14. JohnnyComeLately2k6

    JohnnyComeLately2k6 - Rookie -

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2014
    Messages:
    65
    Likes Received:
    261
    Trophy Points:
    53
    Occupation:
    Padawan Data Scientist
    Location:
    Global City
    Offline
    What's not to love about Lonzo at this point? As crazy as it sounds based on his 10/7/7/1/1 (technically 0.9 blk, but hey), his stat line is a lot like Draymond's. His shooting seems to be picking up and I'm optimistic he can improve his scoring.
     
  15. gcclaker

    gcclaker Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    5,417
    Likes Received:
    8,783
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Wherever I am at the moment...
    Offline
    Played off the ball some tonight...resulted in a pair of flushes. Just like at UCLA with Holiday on the floor with him only this was with Kuzma. I can live with the 7 TO's as he was pushing the pace. Two of them were low and had no chance to convert. That touch pass to Pope for a trey was typical of him.
     
  16. JohnnyComeLately2k6

    JohnnyComeLately2k6 - Rookie -

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2014
    Messages:
    65
    Likes Received:
    261
    Trophy Points:
    53
    Occupation:
    Padawan Data Scientist
    Location:
    Global City
    Offline
    If only he had the shooters the Bruins had...
    [​IMG]
     
  17. gcclaker

    gcclaker Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    5,417
    Likes Received:
    8,783
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Wherever I am at the moment...
    Offline
    Agree, IF we have some outside shooting or free throw efficiency... No doubt has cost us close wins.
     
  18. JohnnyComeLately2k6

    JohnnyComeLately2k6 - Rookie -

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2014
    Messages:
    65
    Likes Received:
    261
    Trophy Points:
    53
    Occupation:
    Padawan Data Scientist
    Location:
    Global City
    Offline
  19. lakerjones

    lakerjones Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2014
    Messages:
    3,904
    Likes Received:
    7,766
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    La La land
    Offline
    Another very nice night from Lonzo. And I agree Weezy, that's why when Lonzo went down I said I wasn't going to watch much because it's just so tough without him. We are so reliant on him and with good reason. He makes the team go.

    Another thing that just doesn't translate so much in the box score is how infectious passing becomes for the team when he's out there. They pick up on his unselfish ball movement and try to add to it. When he's not there it's just a lot more selfish ball.

    So glad he's back, and he is really driving the team.
     
    Barnstable, Weezy, Cookie and 3 others like this.
  20. gcclaker

    gcclaker Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    5,417
    Likes Received:
    8,783
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Wherever I am at the moment...
    Offline
    There were a couple of plays where he broke down the defense and instead of taking it to the cup, passed it to a perimeter shooter. Hard to break tendencies but I wish he could be selfish in those instances and just take the shot. Ball has nice touch so I don't see him missing badly.
     

Share This Page