DRAFT TALK Thread: Looking Like Lonzo

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  1. LTLakerFan

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    I wonder how chilly that proximity encounter was or if they spoke at all?

    Well good for Mitch it seems he still enjoys the game and is available if some team needs an executive.
     
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    Looks like Bell measured in at 6'8.5" with shoes and a wingspan just shy of 7'0"
     
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    Could Diallo be in play at #28?
     
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    Is this guy a under sz pf? Or over sz sf?
     
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    I'd rather have Mason.
     
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    Under size PF with crazy athleticism
     
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    I haven't watched a lot of college basketball, but have read and watched a lot of the scouting reports for the top 4 prospects the Lakers are being reported to be interested in. Would these not be the more realistic comparisons?

    - Lonzo Ball is Ricky Rubio with a better outside shot
    - Josh Jackson is likely to be Michael Kidd Gilchrist 2.0
    - Markelle Fultz for some reason makes me think he's going to become Eric Gordon with slightly above average passing ability (i.e. A Kyle Lowry/Eric Bledsoe level of passer)
    - DeAaron Fox is Jrue Holiday
     
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    I don't know why I haven't mentioned him before or posted any of his tweet threads on the analysis he's done on guys who will be around for our 28th pick but this guy knows his stuff and works closely with LakerFilmRoom. Definitely check out his work, @trodgers will appreciate the analysis:

    Keep Scrolling toward the bottom to see the individual player thread (Ex: Bam Adebayo, Jordan Bell, more..)

    https://wakelet.com/wake/074e5d30-520a-4d5b-8126-3d79c416c45d

    https://twitter.com/T1m_NBA

    And all the rest of his contributions

    https://wakelet.com/@T1m_NBA

    He's really high on Bam Adebayo and not so much Bell.
     
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    I only watch college ball during tourney but those seem pretty lazy comparison if these analsyt are supposedly saying this is one of the deepest and most talented draft in a long time...i mean just the ball/rubio seems poor, I doubt rubio couldve shot 40% from 3s at 18/19 even if he had gone to college...ive called Ball a taller rondo before but that was only due to asst part where hes not really creating open looks for guys rather guys are getting to their spots and he just makes the right pass (probably wrong there too) and mkg/jackson also seems poor, Jackson shot is not broken and he has handles like a pg and loves to facilitae, neither of those 2 things describe mkg at all
     
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    jackson's shot scares me a bit. don't like the mechanics, and i worry it's not fixable. he's not strong enough to get by as a tony allen, so he has to be a scorer at the next level. teams will really dare him to do anything away from the paint.

    i don't see ball/rondo at all. very different styles of play, imo. rondo much more ball dominant. i think if he hits his ceiling, ball is ginobili. that's a huge if, though, as ginobili could really get to the basket in the halfcourt as the ballhandler. either way, for all the bluster about how bad dlo is at pg and how ball is jason kidd, i really see ball as a sg in the pros.
     
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    Jackson on draftnet is compared to butler/leonard...i dont see it but i do see Iggy like as his floor, just a do it all guy but just dont expect him to be your #1 or #2, maybe an inconsistent #3 early in his career and rounding out like iggy did
     
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    If Iggy was his floor, he'd go number 1. Iggy is a great player.
     
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    Eventually n no, prime iggy wasn't great either...he was a poor perimiter player....phi tried to make him a #1 n it didn't turn out well
     
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    Laker fans are pretty spoiled. We have several all time top 20 players that have played for us, and we are always looking for "next"

    Hard to compare to that as an underclassman with "potential" or even a 3 yr player. Things are very different now, and you can't just wave your magic wand and make them appear

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    I'm not a huge Jackson fan either. He cannot consistently create offense for himself, his shoulders are slim, and he doesn't shoot well. To me the Kidd-Gilchrist comparison isn't crazy. MKG does some things very well and he plays very, very hard, but he is extremely limited in what he can provide. I like a fiery competitor, but Jackson has a really long way to go to be a star and isn't that what you want in the Top 3? I suppose you could take him if your coach feels like he can fix that jumper, but otherwise Fox or Tatum is the guy I'm looking at there.

    There's no kid that really looks like Rondo in this draft, but if there was it'd be Fox who is the closest. I think Ball is more athletic than Ginobili, but hey that's a probably Hall of Famer there. Can't really be mad at that.
     
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    Jackson's shooting improved throughout the season so I think there's a reasonable chance he will continue to do so. I'm not sure how great a scorer he will ever be but he is a good defender. He's better offensively than Kidd-Gilchrist and a better prospect overall than MKG in my opinion.
     
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    @TIME it's like we know things.
     
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    De'Aaron Fox measured in at 4.5% body fat, 6'2" without shoes, 170 pounds, 8'4" standing reach. I'm not sure about the rest of you, but that's a bit longer than I'd thought. He'd honestly be my top choice at this point.

    Hamidou Diallo's athleticism is absolutely insane.
     
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    I disagree that he wasn't great. He was an elite defender with a pretty good offensive game. But that's not really the crux of the argument. You're saying that's his floor. If I thought my worst case scenario was an elite wing defender that can get me 18 ppg and actually handle the ball coming up the floor, I take him #1 because the other 2 guys in consideration for the top spot (Ball/Fultz) don't impress me all that much. Add a player that becomes Iggy in 2-3 years to Ingram and Russell? Hell yeah.
     
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    I like the Iggy comparison with him more than MKG.
     

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