Malik Newman Thread

Discussion in 'Lakers Discussion' started by therealdeal, Jun 21, 2018.

  1. therealdeal

    therealdeal Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2014
    Messages:
    28,475
    Likes Received:
    62,061
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline


    I'll try to work up a report on him tonight or tomorrow morning.
     
    Cookie likes this.
  2. Battle Tested20

    Battle Tested20 Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    9,213
    Likes Received:
    24,866
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Technical Data Analyst
    Location:
    Fair Oaks, CA
    Offline
    The Ringer's draft guide always had us picking this guy. I like this a lot. Really good scorer but questions with defense and things that he will need to get better at

    upload_2018-6-21_21-24-51.png
     
  3. Battle Tested20

    Battle Tested20 Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    9,213
    Likes Received:
    24,866
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Technical Data Analyst
    Location:
    Fair Oaks, CA
    Offline
  4. Weezy

    Weezy Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    18,563
    Likes Received:
    75,358
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Anaheim
    Offline
    I remember him from the tournament, not a bad pickup at all.
     
  5. SFGOLDRUSHER

    SFGOLDRUSHER - Lakers Starter -

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2014
    Messages:
    3,094
    Likes Received:
    2,181
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Master Optimist.
    Location:
    San Diego
    Offline
  6. therealdeal

    therealdeal Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2014
    Messages:
    28,475
    Likes Received:
    62,061
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    I'm very partial to Rawle Alkins, but they're not dissimilar players. Newman is good. Could definitely be a steal.
     
  7. SFGOLDRUSHER

    SFGOLDRUSHER - Lakers Starter -

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2014
    Messages:
    3,094
    Likes Received:
    2,181
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Master Optimist.
    Location:
    San Diego
    Offline
    He was a top recruit according to the article and didn't fit his first program well afterall. Could have stayed after Graham declared but he felt ready obviously.

    Who cares he went undrafted... Unlike NFL, only so many selections. Will be rooting for all these dudes. Summer league should be intriguing personally.
     
  8. therealdeal

    therealdeal Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2014
    Messages:
    28,475
    Likes Received:
    62,061
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Alright here's something on Malik Newman.

    Pros:
    - Microwave scorer/shooter. He can get real hot and put up points in a hurry.
    - Has shown solid scoring footwork. He can find separation on step backs, drives, pump fakes.
    - Solid shooter from outside even if his shot is a little slow and cumbersome.
    - Solid ball handler creating for himself.

    Cons:
    - Gets sloppy and careless at times.
    - Can lose focus defensively.
    - Not a great passer, so more of an undersized SG than a SG/SF.
    - Didn't regularly show NBA range. It's unclear if his shooting will translate given his long, slow release. Improved dramatically as a FT shooter, so it should.

     
    Cookie likes this.
  9. gcclaker

    gcclaker Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    8,993
    Likes Received:
    20,464
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Wherever I am at the moment...
    Offline
    ...cumbersome and slow release? Kind of contradicts how Newman can score in droves. Small SG with suspect court vision? Vander Blue Redux?
     
  10. therealdeal

    therealdeal Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2014
    Messages:
    28,475
    Likes Received:
    62,061
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    It's not restrictive necessarily, but it's certainly not a quick shot. There's a lot of moving parts to it. He's very accurate when given time and space, but will that same time and space be available in the pros?

    Vander Blue is a very solid comparison. Hopefully a smarter version of Vander.
     
  11. PurPle n GoLd 1

    PurPle n GoLd 1 - Lakers 6th Man -

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2015
    Messages:
    1,333
    Likes Received:
    1,749
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    818 The Originator of this
    Offline
    Sounds like marcus smart
     
  12. lakerjones

    lakerjones Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2014
    Messages:
    10,678
    Likes Received:
    31,765
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    La La land
    Offline
    I don't think his release looks cumbersome or necessary slow. He gathers it on the three but that's fine. His release, finishes in the paint and some of his drives actually remind me a lot of Rashard Lewis.

     
  13. therealdeal

    therealdeal Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2014
    Messages:
    28,475
    Likes Received:
    62,061
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Lewis was much, much bigger and could afford that weird release because his height and finish point made it a difficult shot to challenge. Newman is listed at 6'3". If he's got to get himself squared up like that and into that shooting motion every time, it's going to limit how many shots he can get off against NBA defenses.

    He just needs to make his shot more compact and get into it faster.
     
  14. lakerjones

    lakerjones Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2014
    Messages:
    10,678
    Likes Received:
    31,765
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    La La land
    Offline
    Oh yeah, no doubt. Lewis was a SF/PF at 6 foot 9 or so. Just mentioning that his offense and shot remind me of him and I think it'll be ok for corner three shooting.
     
    therealdeal likes this.
  15. gcclaker

    gcclaker Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    8,993
    Likes Received:
    20,464
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Wherever I am at the moment...
    Offline
    Looking at the highlights...Newman reminds me of Robert Pack or a poor man's JR Rider. Small, compact with deceptive speed. Can finish at the cup. Most of his shots are off the catch. His stroke and resulting follow through isn't as ugly as that other kid we worked out whose name escapes me.
     
  16. LTLakerFan

    LTLakerFan - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    36,400
    Likes Received:
    60,567
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    So Cal
    Online
    Was the last name Ball? :giggle: :clap:




    Just kidding LaVar.
     
    gcclaker likes this.
  17. SFGOLDRUSHER

    SFGOLDRUSHER - Lakers Starter -

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2014
    Messages:
    3,094
    Likes Received:
    2,181
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Master Optimist.
    Location:
    San Diego
    Offline
    He had good stats off a pick and roll and in motion to shoot off a screen.
     
    gcclaker likes this.
  18. Jaguar

    Jaguar - Lakers 6th Man -

    Joined:
    May 26, 2016
    Messages:
    1,926
    Likes Received:
    3,474
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Los Angeles, CA
    Offline
    I see Dwayne Wade in his style from the videos.
     
    abeer3 likes this.
  19. abeer3

    abeer3 - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    28,019
    Likes Received:
    75,593
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    i see that, too, minus a couple inches and a lot of explosiveness. good body control. funky shot.
     
  20. therealdeal

    therealdeal Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2014
    Messages:
    28,475
    Likes Received:
    62,061
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    I'm watching some Newman while I watch Mykhailiuk (pretty nice having two guys off the same team). Some things that pop out:

    • He sits in his defensive stance really nicely. He's low, bends his knees, has his arms in good position. He works hard defensively.
    • He doesn't move his feet quite as well as you'd like. Sometimes he anticipates things that just don't happen and gets beat.
    • His decision making is just infuriating at times. He sees passes too late and forces them, takes early contested shots, drives into traffic. Frustrating.
    • Flashes a tremendous ability to get to the basket and solid ball handling.
    • Thin, but athletic. He's perfectly suited for the G-League. He reminds me a lot of Vander Blue.
     
    Cookie, Battle Tested20 and gcclaker like this.

Share This Page