Official 2016 Free Agency Thread

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  1. sirronstuff

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    sirronstuff, Mar 13, 2016
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    Understatement of the year.
     
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    still interested in Cousins? Or giving up our talent for this guy?

    Kings play by play announcer Grant Napear absolutely torched Boogie on Radio.

     
    sirronstuff, Mar 14, 2016
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    Tell us how you really feel Grant Napear.
     
    alam1108, Mar 14, 2016
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    I'm just not sure how to feel about Cousins. The talent is obviously there, but will he ever figure it out mentally? Would changing teams screw his head on straight? Randolph eventually calmed down in Memphis, but that seems more like a rarity than a norm.

    I definitely would not give up any of our established players for him. I'm not trading Russell, Randle, or Clarkson for him at this point. The chemistry with those three is too on point to risk losing one of those pieces and adding a headcase. If we could get him with the Top 3 pick then I definitely think about it. I'm not sold on pretty much any of the prospects this season. Other than the pick and Lou or Nick, I'm not giving up our young talent for him.
     
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    Agreed, realdeal. He's an amazing talent, but his fear of authority and anger issues really derail him on a pretty consistent basis. He needs a guy like the Zen master to guide him and that's not happening. I love our young core and we need some players who can get along and play beside them. Cousins is too much of a head case and me first player.
     
    lakerjones, Mar 14, 2016
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    I was listening to some ESPN podcast the other day and Israel Guiterez was saying how we can't 100 percent judge Cousins because of his culture. At some point it's him. It's not like the Kings are the only bad culture. We don't exactly have a great culture and our young guys who all are younger than DeMarcus none of them have gone off like him. This has been a consistent theme. Cousins has as much to do with that culture as anyone else. Keeping a guy like that around who is so toxic has hurt them in the locker room, with their coaching staff, and fans.
     
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    Yeah it's such a gamble to take him on and I figure there's going to be someone *cough*Boston*cough* who can and should make a big offer on him this summer so the point could be moot...
     
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    Do not want Cousins. He's never going to win anything with his current attitude. All the talent in the world but it sure hasn't added up to many wins, and they have a decent roster this season.
     
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    I've come to the point where the only way I take on Cousins is if we have two other big free agents waiting to sign OR if Sacramento is willing to take the 2nd or 3rd pick in the draft for him, with nothing else attached. I really don't think anyone except Simmons is worth keeping. I'd actually lean towards taking Jaylen Brown at #2 at this point because he at least has one NBA transferable skill.... defense. Ingram...I'm over him.

    If we don't have free agents lined up, there is no point giving up any of our guys because if it's just him, we don't really improve. He's the guy I trade for IF we have Durant and another free agent lined up. He can't be a solo move made in a vacuum.
     
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    There's a few players that @abeer3 's expectations are starting to meet by the way. The FA market is probably not loving LA's look which mean we're going to the ones maybe scooping up disgruntled, high-salary players. Obviously one of them is Cousins which could cost us a young guy...

    Someone to keep an eye on too? Carmelo Anthony. We all saw the Front Office go after him really hard a couple seasons ago. I could definitely see them making a run at him now as the Knicks continue to struggle and he voices his displeasure with the way the team is situated. I could see the Knicks dumping Carmelo in order to create cap space to make a run at FAs, dangling the over-hyped Porzingis as a co-star.

    So what do you think? The market on Carmelo is pretty difficult to read. I'm sure Boston would make a run at him if he's available. A team like Orlando could too, but Carmelo has a no-trade clause. I think he'd prefer a city he likes and/or a competitive team at this point. So what do you think?

    If it comes down to it... Do you want Cousins or Carmelo? :Magic2:
     
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    Neither. Melo's game is starting to fall off a cliff and Cousins is toxic. I'd rather suck for another season than be saddled to either one of them.
     
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    if it's not the #1 overall pick, i'd consider moving it for him...and that's all. and i'd be worried about that, and i'd be exploring many other trade options first.

    not that napear knows all or anything, but he knows things we don't, and his tone is pretty frightening there. and if you watch sac, you can see it. people don't like this guy, and he doesn't like anyone else. he's an amazing basketball talent. amazing. his combination of size, coordination, quickness, skill, and strength might be unprecedented. he's almost shaq-like in terms of the strength differential between him and his opponent; it looks like opposing centers are wrestling a bear. he has range out to three, he can face up and drive with either hand, finish within 5ft with either hand. it's crazy.

    but napear's right: given all that, it's IMMENSELY troublesome that his teams can't be better. part of that is that sac is a huge mess, but i think his toxic personality is also a big part of it. if kobe were still here, i'd be more comfortable taking him on, but with a bunch of young guys...
     
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    Cousins. At least he's on the right side of 30.
     
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    It's mostly white dudes who complain about a lack of respect for authority. It's overrated. It's also irrelevant to Cousins's case. He'a a douche regardless.
     
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    i'd love to get cousins in a laker uniform but i don't think there's any way to acquire him without giving up either someone like russell, randle, or clarkson or the 1st round pick if they keep it

    and i'd rather not give up any of those things
     
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    Cousins over Melo every day and twice on Sunday. I think DMC just needs a change of scenery. He's very very immature, his actions show that and there is no defending it. But we all know the Lakers are gonna push for him and I'd rather have that headache than ISO old Melo.

    Ideally I wouldn't make the trade and let the young trio play out. If I had to choose a youngster to go it would be Randle just because we can get back what he brings in terms of rebounding and mismatches with DMC.

    DR/JC I just don't see as trade able at this point. DR looks special and that's where that conversation ends. JC is going to be solid and you can't just trade away 40% 3pt shooters who can get to the rim at will. Backcourt can be special so that's a no go.

    This years top 3 pick + Randle? I'd be fine with it, but like I said I'd rather see this young core play out seeing them over the course of the season.
     
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    I'd rather max Whiteside instead of trading away any of our young players for Cousins. Additionally, I think Whiteside is a better fit with Clarkson/Russell than Cousins.
     
    LaVarBallsDad, Mar 14, 2016
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    I would not want to take the chance on Cousins poisoning Russell or Clarkson. If Russell was 25 and the clear team leader, maybe, but Cousins is going to try to take over the team culture and it's just too risky.
     
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    Agreed. I'd take Whiteside over Cousins. Keep the core and add good pieces. That should be the plan above all else.
     
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