2016 Rumor Mill: Trades and Players to Watch

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  1. LaVarBallsDad

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    Is Dwight even relevant anymore? I feel that he's kinda just faded away after Orlando. As a player solely dependent on his athleticism, he's probably at 60% of what he used to be after his injury. No thanks.
     
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    He had 36 pts and 26 rebounds against the Clippers. The difference is those games are far and few between now because of his declining health and athleticism.
     
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    He's a champion. :dwightcrying:
     
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    Champion of "fun"!

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    So ...... what if all these end of bench and out of position whack lineups Byron has been running out there for a couple of months were to give the guys on the trading block best chance to shine upon request from the FO, once Byron showed in the first 2 weeks we had no chance of reaching the playoffs with him coaching?

    NAH!! It's just [​IMG]
     
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    Few and far between is a nice way of putting it. He's had only one other game at 30 points this season although he's had a nice stretch the last 10 games.

    Coincidentally, Harden has looked worse and the Rockets are 6-4 over that stretch.
     
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    I hope we find a nice home for Brandon Bass. I like him a lot. He's been a trooper for us. I'd love to keep him around as a great bench piece to fill in from time to time, but he deserves better than what we've given.

    If the Lakers are determined not to take back long-term cash, I'm not sure what kind of trades they can find for him... I'm sure the Bulls would love him. Bass for Heinrich works and Heinrich is on a one-year deal. Personally I'd try to nab McDermott from them (I know the Lakers were high on him in the draft), but if they don't want contracts on the books, then go for a different cheap veteran.

    Get Heinrich, cut Huertas.
     
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    Very nice game from Bass tonight. 18 points and three blocks. Sell high I say.
     
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    Love him as a mentor going forward, but if we could get a pick or a vet locked up for a few years at a low price tag, I'd be on that. He won't be back.
     
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    It seems like everyone not named DAR, JR, Kobe could be available according to, well I'll be honest, according to the plethora of trade rumors that are 99.9% bogus and what I personally hope the FO will do. I'm hoping we find a way to bring in some star power now to help sell the ability to win to the 2016 Free Agents. Not many guys who fit that "star" label will be moved, but I'd be willing to part with just about anything on the roster to land some of the top guys. I know it might be greedy or impatient, but I'm hoping Mitch and Ryan West pull off something crazy and shake up the roster top to bottom. Some of the "stars" and other good players who I've seen talk about:

    Cousins - I know his issues are well documented and many don't think he's the type of player you give the Kings ransom for(pun intended). I disagree. If he even is on the market, I think he's the best player available and I'd part with packages starting with anyone on the roster, but not completely gut it.

    Love - Randle has been one of the biggest positives this season. He looks like he has the stuff to be as good as advertised, but I don't let him prevent me from acquiring Love because Love is more likely to help recruit the top FA's that want to win immediately. That's a great landing spot for Bass, and our young guys could bring in win-now players from a 3rd team. Wouldn't give up as much for Love as Cousins.

    Noah as a prelude to bringing in Thibs to bring back the Noah that was an MVP candidate?

    Monroe? I've been consistent in my opinion that Monroe isn't a max player on a championship team and is a terrible fit with Randle, but with his value down, I believe he could come here and score/rebound at a rate that he'd be a much more valuable asset when the huge contracts start. I don't think he's a star but he could have star trade value for us. Hibbert could go a long way towards helping them return to the defensive powerhouse of last season.

    And yeah. I'm gonna go there lol. Dwight? I can't stand the guy but what he's been able to do with Harden has to let a guy like Durant know he can go far next to Dwight. He still has some of that superstar draw that will help recruit. Not to mention he doesn't shoot as much now and can still go off for huge games and consistently rebound at an elite level.

    After that you have the guys like Rudy Gay, Jeff Green, Ryan Anderson, Morris, Moz, TJones, Ariza and the other guys listed in every rumor.

    Landing 2 of the top guys like any of the C's along with Love or Monroe could be enough to give us a fighting chance at the top Free Agents. As long as we don't give up everything else, it could work. One of the top guys and a middle tier player or 2 could also go a long way. The 1 thing I'm certain of is that we'll read about any trades for the first time when they actually happen or fall apart.
     
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    I addressed this in another thread, but I guess this one is more appropriate. :D

    Cousins I don't think moves anywhere. If he does, it's to the East Coast so that the Kings don't see him much. The C Bags make the most sense.

    Love doesn't make much sense. Right now his value is as low as it can be and that's because his weaknesses are being exploited big time. He's not a great shooter, he's only a decent passer, and he can't defend mobile bigs. He looks basically like Randle but without the aggression. I don't want to pay for Love when we've got so many Power Forwards anyway. Right now, I don't think Love is an actual draw for FAs.

    Noah is a good move, but we don't have to trade for him. Offer him something like 4/20 or 4/24 this summer and that might do it honestly. I mean the guy gets hurt a LOT. I would love his activity and on-court leadership here though.

    Monroe I wanted two years ago, but he hasn't shown much growth. He hasn't developed much as a defender and he needs the ball to be effective. With D'Angelo on board now, we need a pick and roll big instead of a post-up big. It's just not a good fit anymore.

    Dwight- gross. No.

    I'd take Jeff Green, Ryan Anderson, and Trevor Ariza right away. I'd probably take Mozgov as well. Gay would be nice, but I don't see him actually being all that available.
     
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    I was working through a scenario in which we nab Jeff Green at the deadline as a step toward luring Durant on board. Young + Bass works financially, and if we could snag their second round pick in the process, I'd view it as a win because Bass is walking and Young would be part of a crowded rotation with one of the added wings, the possibility of Ingram, and...Anthony Brown? The pick would hold a minimum roster spot for us, and those contracts aren't guaranteed if I remember correctly.
     
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    Let's get Gorgui Dieng to replace Roy.
     
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    I agree with Real. For Cousins to get dealt, we'd have to unload both Clarkson AND Randle plus some filler. And even so, Sac would be very leery to trade to a bitter rival in the division. But...with the emergence of Russell, I think I might trade both Clarkson, Randle and, let's say Swaggy. Russell and Boogie as a pitch to DeRozen and Durant might be enough. And a core of Durant, Boogie DeRozen with Russell orchestrating could be dominant.

    Love is tempting. I think he is actually a great passer for a pf. Obviously he's only decent if you're comparing him to pgs. His shooting isn't as big of a concern to me because I think he is better than the stats let on. Blatt couldn't figure out how to use him to save his life. But I think I'd rather stick with Randle. Randle is 21, he's cheap and he still has TONS of room to grow. It's all on him. Love has kind of peaked as a player.

    Noah is broken and don't want him for anything.

    Monroe I agree is a bad fit for this team. Monroe + Randle as our bigs is not how you win in today's NBA, and it'd be a layup line for the opposition.

    Dwight...I'd actually take him. He's a good pick and roll center (despite his belief in his dominant post game). And while he is certainly on the decline, I think he will still be a top 5 center for another 3-4 years. I hate him and think he's a little b***h, but I ended up liking Karl Malone after all those years of wanting him to get struck by lightning when he was on the Jazz. We could also bring back D'Antoni for one season and talk Kobe into playing one more year in order to orchestrate a GIANT troll of Dwight.

    Green, Anderson and Ariza would all be great.
     
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    I can't believe anyone would want Dwight back. Guy is a loser, he has a losers mentality, he's a clown, he thinks he's a top option on offense when he has like 2 moves, and he's not a player I want representing my franchise. No thanks to him, in fact f*** him. Not a big fan of Kevin Love either, and I am a UCLA fan, I watched his college career. I wouldn't give up much for him at all.
     
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    I think Kevin can still be a very good player (and he's still fairly young). As for Dwight, f*** NO.
     
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    The pipe would be:

    Get #1 pick, use it on Simmons
    Trade Randle + JC for Cousins
    Sign Durant + Derozan

    Cousins
    Simmons
    Durant
    Derozan
    Russell
     
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    Yeah. That's the team I laid out in the draft thread. That team has a big weakness though when t comes to outside shooting.
     

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