Michael Frazier Waived!

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    it seems like we're putting in more work fixing the D-Fenders roster than our own
     
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    Seems like a solid camp invite. Minimal risk. Didn't really watch him. @trodgers did you see him; he went to school in Florida?

    Edit; or anybody who saw him; maybe give a breakdown, please.
     
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    Primarily known for his prowess as a spot-up shooter, Frazier saw his three point percentage drop from 44.7% his sophomore season to 38% his junior season, an average mark compared to shooting guards in our top 100. Losing three all-conference teammates allowed SEC defenses to key in on Frazier much more heavily as a junior and prevented him from seeing anywhere near the same quantity of quality looks he enjoyed in his two seasons prior, which played a major role in his percentages dropping, along with his injury problem.

    Despite the ball not going through the net as frequently, Frazier continued to show strong mechanics on his jump shot, and as he moves through the pre-draft process he'll need to prove he can stretch the floor consistently and that he is capable of being a lights-out shooter from NBA range.

    A bit undersized for a shooting guard, measured at 6'4” when he played for the USA Basketball U19 team in 2013, Frazier has a strong 6'9” wingspan that allows him to play bigger than his size. He's a strong athlete overall, as well, displaying good quickness and explosiveness while possessing a solid frame that should allow him to match up athletically with NBA level shooting guards, certainly those on reserve units.

    While mainly a straight line driver, he can step through the defense at times and has the potential to attack off the dribble when opponents run him off the three point line. While he showed some potential in this area, he didn't attack the rim often as he attempted just 39 attempts at the rim where he shot 53.8% according to Synergy Sports Technology. Frazier will also need to show he can attack closeouts off the dribble when defenses take away his jumper to give him a counter move and another way to contribute offensively. He has the athletic tools to be a capable finisher at the rim although his size indicates he should consider developing a floater as well.

    While his junior season offered up the opportunity to step into a larger scoring role after the graduation of Casey Prather, Patric Young and Scottie Wilbekin, Frazier's shot attempts remained level, increasing just slightly from 12.2 to 12.7 per 40 minutes pace adjusted. At this point, he looks to be strictly a complimentary floor spacer. The fact that he moves well without the ball, both spotting up and coming off screens to put himself in passing lanes, certainly helps his cause.

    Defensively, Frazier can use his length to bother opposing shooting guards but being slightly undersized may hurt his ability to be a plus defender. While his overall athletic tools are on par with many shooting guards, he doesn't show multi-positional versatility. With that said, he has learned under a strong defensive coach in Billy Donovan and puts in a concerted effort on this end by moving laterally well, closing out strong and rotating crisply to be both a solid on and off ball defensive player. He will need to contribute on defense to work his way into a NBA rotation.

    Frazier has some potential as a spot-up shooter who plays capable defense, which is an increasingly important role in today's NBA, and the weakness of this year's draft class at his position will certainly bolster his chances of getting picked. Even if he does not on his first go-around, he will get many opportunities in summer league and training camp due to his shooting prowess, and if he puts in work to round out the rest of his game, either in the D-League or elsewhere, he could certainly emerge as a viable NBA player later in his career.
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    From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com#ixzz3j1N9P7JC
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    No idea but went looking.....

    Why Michael Frazier could be the NBA's next undrafted sleeper
    By Kevin O'Connor@KevinOConnorNBA on Jul 21, 2015, 1:44p 8

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    The Florida guard wasn't selected in the 2015 NBA Draft, but still has the skills to carve out a career in the league.

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    Not every NBA player is lucky enough to begin their career walking across the stage to shake the commissioner's hand. Michael Frazier, a 21-year-old guard from Florida, knows this well. Sixty names were called in the 2015 NBA Draft. None were his.

    Yet it's not the end for prospects if they're not picked or don't receive an NBA contract their first year. Frazier has the talent to carve out a career in the league. All he needs is the right situation to give him an opportunity to get to that level.

    Wesley Matthews, Bruce Bowen and Ben Wallace suffered the same disappointment of being undrafted, but went on to have productive careers. Frazier's former teammate Scottie Wilbekin just signed a four-year contract with the 76ers after developing one year overseas and returning an improved player.

    This is why Frazier is a prime candidate to be next in line.

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    At 6'4, Frazier has the passing skills of a combo guard, but shooting will always be his career ticket. He shot more than 43 percent from downtown in his three-year tenure with the Gators. Mechanically, Frazier features a compact release and can either hop or step into his shot attempts depending on the situation.





    In addition to having strong mechanics, Frazier possesses excellent instincts. He was one of the best in the class of 2015 at moving without the ball to find soft spots in the defense.

    Despite his clear shooting prowess, Frazier struggled with the Golden State Warriors in the Las Vegas Summer League. He shot 0-11 from three-point range, with most of his misses front-rimming. He did hit two long-range shots, but his toe was touching the line.

    However, summer basketball isn't a good way to determine whether a shooter can actually shoot. Even Matthews, one of the best perimeter marksmen in the league today, shot just 21.4 percent from three in his first summer league. Frazier's small sample size of 11 shots is statistically insignificant, as was Matthews' 14 attempts. His college numbers -- 43.2 percent from three and 85.4 percent from the line -- are much more useful.

    Frazier isn't a one-dimensional shooter, either. Though the far majority of his triples came via spot-up attempts, he is also an elite shooter coming off screens.

    "I watch a lot of film, especially of J.J. Redick," Frazier told SB Nation at last May's NBA Combine. "I focus on how he reads the screen, how he sets his guy up to come off it and how he gets himself open with subtle movements."

    Frazier added that he doesn't just try to perfect his physical technique. He uses misdirection and deceptive eye movements, knowing that can be the deciding factor between attempting a shot with a clean look or being smothered by the defender.


    On this play, Frazier lulled the Ole Miss defender to sleep and sprinted back to the corner, angling his body toward the wing to trick the defender into going over the screen. The defender's error gave Frazier ample time and space to operate. He displayed smooth footwork on the catch before elevating into the shot.


    Frazer can also hit pull-up jumpers if the defender manages to stick with him, as he showed above. Unlike most shooting specialists, Frazier is also a reliable pick-and-roll playmaker, both as a shooter and a passer. He can elevate over the screen to shoot or put the ball on the floor and pull up from mid-range.

    "Coach Donovan asked me to primarily be a spot-up shooter because that's what was going to help the team," Frazier explained. "But I didn't really get the chance to run many pick-and-rolls at Florida, so people just labeled me as a spot up shooter. I've always been able to do that and I've gotten better at it. It's something that I've always felt like I could do if I were given the opportunity."

    Before the draft, Frazier worked out at Elev8 Sports Institute with trainer Cody Toppert to improve this area of his game. Toppert recently published an overview of the pick-and-roll. He preaches three keys: pace, poise and purpose.

    "Cody Toppert and I watched a lot of film, then went straight to the court to try to replicate those same kinds of things," Frazier said. "In today's game, Chris Paul is the best player in the pick-and-roll, so I watch a lot of him. He's the master of it."

    When Frazier did receive pick-and-roll reps, he excelled in those three keys with the Gators. He can slip pocket passes into the rolling defenders' hands or probe and kick the ball out to shooters.


    Frazier's 0.8 assist-turnover ratio as a junior at Florida is misleading, since he wasn't surrounded by the same level of talent he was as an underclassman. The Gators had a 102.9 offensive rating according to KenPom.com, which was just in the 57th percentile in the country.


    Frazier flashed his potential with better spacing and talent surrounding him on the floor in Summer League. This was a play he completed consistently in Las Vegas. Though his shots weren't falling, the passing ability was there. Frazier will need to improve his ball handling in order to maximize his potential, but considering his lack of experience, his ability to make smart plays is already ahead of the curve.

    That potential still primarily depends on his ability to drain threes, whether it's spotting up or off screens. Some teams may be wary of his ability to get shots off against NBA defenses after his Summer League struggles, but they can't be prisoners of the moment. Not every player immediately adjusts to a new basketball, the longer three-point line and the speed of the NBA game.

    A forward-thinking team would be wise to give Frazier a shot this preseason.

    http://www.sbnation.com/2015/7/21/9...uting-report-warriors-nba-draft-summer-league



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    This scouting report is from my 2015 NBA Draft Guide, which can be downloaded here.
     
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    Wait, what? Black fighting for a spot? I thought he was guaranteed. If he isn't he should be, we'd be foolish to let him go at his current price.
     
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    Black is non-guaranteed. He becomes guaranteed on January 10th (could have wrong date, but I'm almost positive on the month).
     
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    Nah. I don't follow much college ball other than occasionally Notre Dame.
     
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    I saw him a bit and he wasn't bad. Solid shooter from what I recall.
     
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    Jay Bilas seems to agree.

    On Frazier: “He’s one of the better shooters in the draft. I’ve got him slotted around No. 40 on my best-available list. Michael’s got size and a high release on his shot and he’s a very good shooter. I’m not sure I would classify him as a great shooter, but he’s a good shooter. As a second-rounder, there are other guys who are probably better overall players, but he’s got a specialist-type skill and I put him higher than some other guys because of that.”

    http://gatorbytes.blog.palmbeachpos...weighs-in-on-chris-walker-michael-frazier-ii/
     
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    Gotta be honest though. From what I saw I would much rather have Upshaw. Even with the red flags, I would still rather take a risk on him. Frazier could end up being great, but I think we can roll with Brown and see what we can get out of Upshaw. We will see how this all shakes out though.
     
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    When we send him to the D League...

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    We'll see. If the Lakers don't go w/Upshaw, there's probably a good reason why,
     
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    Yeah. I mean, I definitely understand the hesitation. But, i would be okay with us giving him a deal like the one we just gave Frazier.
     
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    i really don't think black is fighting for a roster spot. I'm not sure he's even fighting for a rotation spot.

    this signing might mean the browns have some competition, though.
     
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    I wonder how Kelly feels about competing for minutes with Black and Brown. I'm imagining he felt f***ed after finding out we signed John Holmes.
     
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