Cameron Carr Discussion

who's the 17th player?

 

It's an odd number, 2 ways were invited too so we should have 19 invited.


I think it sucks for Carr, really bad luck. He just arrived to the league so these experiences are relevant. I trust the group will work extra to make him feel integrated during and after the trip

 

Kurt

 

Going to happen in the playoffs as well. This kid is going to prove to be a valuable undeniable player right off the bat. Like a Johnny Bench home run!!

 

I know right? Maybe Luka can write a note for him to the league? Bronny's going to really have a leg up on him now for minutes out of the gate.




How's the summer going OX .... all good?

 

that's what I was thinking, but you KNOW that had to invite Cream Abdul Jabbar. hahahahahaha

 

He's going to be real nice quick, especially if he comes in with another 5-7 lbs. Said he was going to live in the weight room. So smooth and explosive to go with that pretty elevated jumper. He has a bit of Kobe's grace in him when he moves already at this young age.

 

i wonder if a shooting coach will work to correct that turn in his shot or if they'll wait to see the results first.

edit: wait--do we even have a shooting coach? is it still linda rambis?

 

Last time I heard our coaching staff is not by skill. It's more versatile and they have 3-4 players under each working in different stuff.

Also heard about having these groups made to learn through synergies and habits. I remember some non-shooter(Thiero?) being with Kennard or Rui to learn their shooting habits and mechanics.

 

i think rui's a good one to watch because he went from shooting being a question mark in his game to a strength. interestingly, he's never been a great ft shooter, either, so it's not like he just has excellent fine motor skills or something. he just practiced. a lot.

 

This is a good question

As far as Rambii go

 

Yeah and his shot is super flat and no spin, Kawhi like. Not good to learn but super effective for him.
He was born in the wrong era, his mid j is so clean, a beauty to watch

 

oh yeah, rui would have been a great pf in the 90s. wouldn't have had to leave the paint on defense, and knock down midrange bigs were super valuable back then. it was the old version of "spacing" lol.

 

I still believe that the mid range game has a place in today’s NBA.
The best scorers don’t just shoot threes and layups.
As we know, the problem with Rui was that he didn’t improve enough defensively or in the rebounding department.
That being said, I would have rather kept him over the black hole on offense that is known as LaRavia.

 

Absolutely, it's coming back again. Teams are so focused in defending the 3 and paint that the mid J is left open.

Rui is who he is, doesn't have a high motor and for a big guy lacks defending and rebounding. He can fit great in certain teams but in a contending team his role is as a bench scorer, which he struggles with so it's tricky for him

 

i don't know if i think it's coming back, tbh. in some ways, it never left, as the game's best scorers (luka, SGA, durant, kawhi, etc.) all have great midrange games, and that's not a coincidence.

what's gone and maybe not coming back is anybody but absolute masters taking them. in order for them to make sense, you have to shoot like 60% on them, so designing plays for those is probably a thing of the past now that teams shoot in the upper 30s on threes.

 

It does

Along with driving to the basket and passing

 

The thing is, the more of the court you make the defense defend the harder it is for them. A lot of mid range, elbow shots, floaters, can come from being chased off threes. It is better to have options beside just having to pass off or attack what might be a heavily guarded basket. If the rim protector knows you can actually shoot he has to concede the easy two or come out opening up others. I'm all for high percentage three point shots but like abeer stated the greats can do more. So choose to be average to good or go for it and be great. Just takes confidence and being willing to put in the work. Most of the time confidence will come from putting in the work.

 

yeah, i mostly meant plays like rip hamilton curling around a screen for a midrange are probably never happening again. if you're that good a shooter, they'll try to free you for a three, where 40% is as good as 60% on that middy.

but yes, you have to be able to take what the best defenses give up. this is part of how dirk rained hellfire on the league in the 2011 playoffs. he was a master of a part of the floor that is really hard to double or deny. and james harden's teams failed in part because the best defenses took away the three and shots at the rim, and he had nothing else.

 

Sorry, I didn't mean to twist what you were saying!!