Yeah he's awful managing minutes, agree there He needs to improve there but it's very unfair to give a negative note. Season wasn't easy and in January nobody believed in this team Next season is a clean slate with all the tools for a deeper roster. If he keeps the same pattern, it's a problem. I think he has learned from his mistakes. He's very stubborn, but this year we saw more versatility on defense (relied too much on switching before), offense became more dynamic, things he learned from last year. He's young and if willing to learn, he'll only get better
I think it's time to move on from him this summer because he's not worth the price tag if the coach doesn't believe in him. And JJ definitely doesn't. I'm curious if there's any residual issues from their back and forth in the loss. I also think Vando's defense is getting too much credit based on history. Vando ain't that Vando anymore cause of the pile up of injuries. He can still make an impact as a hustle guy who can defend a bit, mix it up and grab a few boards but he's not the lock down defender he was a few years ago. His +/- have not been kind, either. Moving him will be hard unless we attach a pick, something we don't like doing. The one path Buha brought up as an example, you find a guy who's worth 1 pick or maybe a little more than 1 pick (Herb is the example he's used) and then use an additional first in that deal to dump Vando or Vando + DK. Ideally we negotiate your way into Missi being included and get a 2nd round pick or two back
lol, i was just saying in another thread that i think he's not as impactful as he was when he first got here. we may not be able to move him, but i also agree with svtzr's proposition that "negative value" depends on context. a bad team can afford 14 million dead dollars for a year and may just want to harvest picks as you're suggesting. the herb example is a good one, as herb was basically NO's vando this year (formerly impactful defender sort of doing nothing for them).
I think he was solid. Very good on some rebs and being active even if it doesn't reflects in the stats. He was in the team that went on a little run in the end of Q2. Also liked he was first sub. Great handling by him and JJ