Jarred Vanderbilt Discussion: The Vandalorian

Meh teams adjust. And we have a large sample size with him.

 

The Vando cycle: Re-enters rotation and has a good game —> teams actually start game planning against his weaknesses once he’s in the regular rotation —> becomes net negative and removed from rotation —> team that is slow and unathletic looks slow and unathletic —> Vando re-enters rotation and has a good game

He had a great game tonight, but we’ve literally been doing this for years.

 

That's a fair take.
But he does have a unique style of play that I think really fits this team. Physicality, motor and "chaos" is something this team lacks when you have a starting 5 of Luka, AR, Bron, Rui and Ayton.

And Vando helps in a long season where some games they are even more disconnected. Vando's start of the 4th quarter was insane, disrupting every single possession.

I really think there should be a few minutes for him each night. I do agree that he's likely hard to play in a playoff series, but if we can use to take a few minutes off of our key players, we should.
I don't think we have a deep enough roster to not be playing Vando and Knecht in the regular season

 

the fact that vando and smart each change the way the game is being played for us is pretty damning, right?

some of it is definitely chalked up to the "hustle is a skill" axiom, but that just means we're really short on that skill, lol.

 

We have 8 guys whom I think definitely should get minutes:

Smart
Reaves
Luka / LaRavia
LeBron / Rui
Ayton / Hayes

I agree that in the regular season we should go at least 9 deep, ideally 10. The candidates for the last two spots are Vando, Gabe, Kleber, Knecht, Smith and Thiero. I'd personally like Smith and Thiero to be the guys that get those last two spots when everyone's healthy. Then Vando and Knecht can be the next two men up if anyone is out that night (which will be the case more often than not).

 

Vando has been pretty awesome out there doing “Vando” things and the great D since JJ let him out of the slammer. Plus is shooting 50% from 3 the last 10 games I think they said tonight.

 

Needs to grab more boards, but in the rest of the areas, he’s playing well.
We will need him to clamp down vs Detroit.

 

From aggregated tracking data:

• Total 3-Point Attempts (3PA): ~21
  
  
• Total 3-Point Makes (3PM): ~10
  
  
• 3-Point Percentage: ~47.6% over the last 10 games. StatMuse
  

Here’s what that implies for his attempts and makes roughly over the last ten outings:

• 3PA: ~21 attempts
  
  
• 3PM: ~10 makes
  
  
• Approximate shooting: 10/21 from three (≈ 47.6%) StatMuse
  

Notes

• StatMuse tracks his 3-point attempts and makes over rolling stretches, but doesn’t list individual game by game box score within that summary. The percentage and attempts above come from that aggregated last-10 stat line. StatMuse
  

Source ChatGPT

 

Hes been making the 3 and he gives s*** in terms of defense and loose balls. Nothing to really complain about but I do get the feeling the defensive impact isn't as much as we'd get.

 

We need other quality defenders. Jared is good. He's defnitely better than what we have; what I want is the ability to throw different types of defenders at guys like Cade. Throw Smart, Vando, Theiro, etc. Or if you don't want to play Vando, trade for a Thybulle or someone of that ilk that can constantly pressure, give another look, and give you 48 minutes on quality guards.

 

I think there something to this. It think the game was lost to when the bench marginal Detroit guys like Holland went off on the lakers.

I really felt the Lakers had gotten control of the game when they tied the starting lineup was working well and then it fell apart. Hayes has a good game but looking at the lineup I don't think the Lakers can afford another small non defensive guy in Smith. Just not enough athleticism and size at the 1

I think Vando was on Ivey who didn't do much but then Saaser of all people. Be honest Laravia getting cooked yesterday was a bad omen he's been a good defender

I keep going back to before you make a move okay Theiro. You need waves of defenders more then marginal offense defense guys

 

he got crossed up by an all nba guard. he played pretty good defense pretty much all game long. not his fault we switch everything to where he and luka always end up on quicker players who they're not supposed to be able to guard.

we don't have the roster to switch as much as we do. i think jj's still mad that DFS is gone, because that was the time we played his favorite brand of basketball, post-DFS trade. it's pretty much the C Bags from their last title, but we don't have the horses defensively, and with luka/reaves, that can't be the plan.

anyway, vando, despite still being bad offensively, is still a plus player due to his defense. he's just a 15mpg regular season guy.

 

Did I get it wrong but didn't duncan robinson cook him as well? I just don't htink he played well. I like Laravia but he hasn't take a step from last year

 

So, is he still “unplayable?”
Just checking, for a friend.

 

Yeah, I’m just going to say “I told you so” to those claiming he was “unplayable.”

 

in fairness, i think most of them claimed he was unplayable in the playoffs.