Depth Chart Discussion

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  1. VladeD714

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    That sucks.

    Luckily, we have our superstar in Reaves, the unequivocal number 1 option who will lead this team to victory & if he does, you can roast me here. I'm secure enough to take it.
     
  2. Panko

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    JJ: I can just have those 5 play 48 min each tonight, right?

    (probably)
     
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    Here is the depth chart and all the lineups JJ played last night. (listed mainly in defensive order)

    10/26/25 vs Sacramento Kings

    Game
    Vincent (19), Smart (16), Reaves (10), Manon (3)
    Reaves (29), Knecht (7), LaRavia (7), Smart (5)
    Smart (10), LaRavia (22), Vando (10), Knecht (6)
    Rui (32), Vando (12), LaRavia (4)
    Ayton (36), Rui (8), Vando (4)

    1Q
    12:00-6:02 Vincent/Reaves/Smart/Rui/Ayton 5:58 +6
    6:02-5:34 Smart/Reaves/LaRavia/Vando/Ayton 0:28 -1
    5:34-4:46 Reaves/Knecht/LaRavia/Vando/Ayton 0:48 +1
    4:46-2:01 Reaves/Knecht/LaRavia/Vando/Rui 2:45 +0
    2:01-0:00 Vincent/Smart/LaRavia/Vando/Rui 2:01 +3

    2Q
    12:00-10:01 Vincent/Smart/LaRavia/Rui/Ayton 1:59 -7
    10:01-8:34 Vincent/Smart/Knecht/Rui/Ayton 1:27 -4
    8:34-8:01 Smart/Reaves/Knecht/Rui/Ayton 0:33 +0
    8:01-4:22 Smart/Reaves/Knecht/LaRavia/Vando 3:39 +3
    4:22-3:47 Smart/Reaves/Vando/Rui/Ayton 0:35 -2
    3:47-2:18 Vincent/Reaves/Vando/Rui/Ayton 1:29 -1
    2:18-0:00 Vincent/Reaves/Vando/Rui/Ayton 2:18 +2

    3Q
    12:00-8:19 Vincent/Reaves/Smart/Rui/Ayton 3:41 +6
    8:19-6:29 Smart/Reaves/LaRavia/Rui/Ayton 1:50 -7
    6:29-6:11 Smart/Reaves/LaRavia/Vando/Ayton 0:18 +1
    6:11-3:38 Manon/Reaves/LaRavia/Vando/Ayton 2:33 -2
    3:38-3:12 Manon/Reaves/LaRavia/Vando/Rui 0:26 +1
    3:12-0:40 Smart/Reaves/LaRavia/Vando/Rui 2:32 +4
    0:40-0:00 Smart/Knecht/LaRavia/Vando/Rui 0:40 +2

    4Q
    12:00-9:11 Smart/Knecht/LaRavia/Rui/Ayton 2:49 -9
    9:11-8:46 Smart/Reaves/LaRavia/Rui/Ayton 0:25 +3
    8:46-7:34 Smart/Reaves/Vando/Rui/Ayton 1:12 +5
    7:34-0:40 Reaves/LaRavia/Vando/Rui/Ayton 6:54 -1
    0:40-0:32 Smart/Reaves/LaRavia/Rui/Ayton 0:08 +2
    0:32-0:00 Smart/Reaves/Vando/Rui/Ayton 0:32 +2


    I haven't gotten to go through this in depth yet, but the obvious thing is how phenomenal Austin was, going +22 and making almost every lineup work. Almost all the non-Reaves minutes were bad, some of them atrocious. Rui/Ayton without Austin didn't work. They need him to feed them. For some reason, Vando/Rui PF/C still worked, even without Austin. That's interesting, will have to keep an eye on that.

    The starting unit of Vincent/Reaves/Smart/Rui/Ayton was fantastic, going +12, evenly distributed in the 1Q & 3Q. Showing that Smart in the starting lineup makes the difference, whether Gabe is out there or not.

    Didn't love the Reaves/LaRavia/Vando/Rui/Ayton that JJ basically closed with for 7 min straight. Went -1, which was just enough to hang on, but needed Smart to be in there. The few Manon minutes were fine, so maybe JJ could have tried that again at some point, so that Smart would have been able to close.

    If I get more time, I'd like to look at each player's +/- with and without Austin and see what units might be able to hold their own when he rests. So far, it looks like some version of Smart/LaRavia/Vando/Rui/+1 is the solution.

    (I wrote this before knowing Smart would be out. This is probably too many injuries to overcome.)
     
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    Smart picked up an injury that’s why he sat and LaRavia came back in. It was a necessity rather than what JJ wanted to do in my opinion.
     
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    Oh okay, thanks, that's what I initially thought, but then JJ put Smart back in for the last 40 seconds for some reason, so I thought I had it wrong.
     
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    I think he brought him back for the inbounds play, to inbound the ball. Then Vando subbed in for LaRavia for the last defensive possession and he kept smart out there for a single stop. And that was pretty much it.
     
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    Expected Lineup

    PG Austin Reaves
    SG Jake LaRavia
    SF Dalton Knecht
    PF Rui Hachimura
    C Deandre Ayton
    Expecting
    Career high for Ayton,Rui and Laravia
    And Dalton with 5 3 ,s would be enough
     
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    23-24 Grizzlies like vibes . This season might be a total nightmare injuries wise
     
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    We get Hayes back tonight at least ... yay.

    Yes, the
    Lakers have submitted their injury report for tonight's game against the Minnesota Timberwolves. As of Wednesday, October 29, 2025, Marcus Smart has been ruled out, while Jaxson Hayes has been upgraded and will be available.
    Here is the Lakers' injury report for their game against the Timberwolves:

    Player Injury Status Expected Return
    Out

    Luka Doncic Left finger sprain / lower left leg contusion Out At least one more week
    LeBron James Right sciatica Out Mid-November
    Marcus Smart Right quad contusion Out Not yet known
    Maxi Kleber Abdominal muscle strain Out Not yet known
    Gabe Vincent Left ankle sprain Out 2 to 4 weeks
    Adou Thiero Left knee surgery recovery Out Not yet known
    Available
    Jaxson Hayes Left patellar tendinopathy Available
     
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    Welp..we have what we have. We aren't going to roll over, but I wouldn't be surprised, if Minnesota just decided to attack Austin, and run bodies at him, in order to get the ball out of his hands. That's what I would do.
     
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    i'll be pretty shocked if we're even competitive in this one. and tbh, if we are, minny should be super concerned.
     
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    Yea, today Randle is going bananas
     
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    You called it. But Austin called Game.
     
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    when i said this, i forgot ant was out, but i'm not sure it changes my thoughts on it. minny's defense needs to be better if they're going to compete at the top of the west. a lot better.
     
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    Correct, and it's not going to happen. They got worse than last year, and the West got better. They're a play in team or squeak into the playoffs. Thunder, Nuggets, Rockets, Lakers, Warriors, and Spurs are all better than them.
     
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    Injuries, Injuries Injuries, always the wild card here. I just hope that we have some good luck on that front. I wouldn't count Minnesota out just yet, the season is young, I do expect them to dump Conley sooner than later though.
     
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    We’re the most injured team in the league to begin the season. Who would expect to be without LeBron, Luka, Kleber and Smart so early. Not to mention Gabe and Hayes.

    Just shows the depth that AR, Ayton, Rui, Vando and LaRavia are able to keep us above water.
     
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    Can we roast you now?
     
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    Absolutely.
     
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