Jarred Vanderbilt Discussion: The Vandalorian

Discussion in 'Lakers Discussion' started by karacha, Feb 8, 2023.

  1. VladeD714

    VladeD714 - Rookie -

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2023
    Messages:
    912
    Likes Received:
    2,001
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Offline
    He still can't shoot. Figures...
     
  2. Toklat

    Toklat - Lakers Starter -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    2,500
    Likes Received:
    6,508
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Typically when a player works on shooting in the off-season it can take a bit to show up in games. Adjust what you fixed to game speeds. It may or may not show up but I wouldn't be concerned for awhile.
     
    TIME, FrontOfJersey22 and Cookie like this.
  3. Toklat

    Toklat - Lakers Starter -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    2,500
    Likes Received:
    6,508
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    I wasn't able to watch the game but I have been told Vando looked much better. What say you?
     
    TIME and abeer3 like this.
  4. abeer3

    abeer3 - Lakers Legend -

    Top Poster Of Month

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    31,255
    Likes Received:
    85,328
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    i don't think he looked better. he looked like vando, which is good.

    he had a nice finish--one jj remarked he hadn't seen (decelerated euro step, pretty nice)--but imo, it wasn't surprising. he has good body control. his problem is finishing at the rim, particularly above the rim or in traffic. that move was just around someone with a free lane at the point of release.

    he nailed an open corner three but kind of badly missed the two semi-contested corner threes he took.

    otherwise, he was a menace on defense as always. he disrupted their first two possessions, and curry had to work to get the ball and get clean looks. curry hit everything, as he sometimes does, but not because it was easy.

    anyway, vando looked like the guy who's helped us win games when he's been available. gabe was the guy who looked like someone we haven't seen before, imo (hitting threes on the move, getting penetration on offense, just generally being noticeable on that end).
     
    OverseasG, Cookie, Toklat and 3 others like this.
  5. pika1708

    pika1708 - Lakers Starter -

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2020
    Messages:
    3,578
    Likes Received:
    6,777
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    He got 2 steals in the first 36 seconds of the game. That tells you all you need.

    He looks really good physically. Best player of the preseason so far.
    But yes, it's still the same Vando. If he continues he will be great for us in the regular. Might get played off the floor in postseason, but he has a few months to change that.

    For now, if he keeps it up like this we get the best version we have seen of him previously, and that a guy is a core rotation piece who impact games when he's on the floor
     
  6. FrontOfJersey22

    FrontOfJersey22 - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2021
    Messages:
    6,355
    Likes Received:
    11,099
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    He was back to his normal Tazmanian Devil Self on defense and actually made a leaning step through layup. We will need his defensive intensity all season since it’s lacking in many of our high minutes guys.
     
  7. OverseasG

    OverseasG - Rookie -

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2023
    Messages:
    64
    Likes Received:
    168
    Trophy Points:
    33
    Offline
    I didn’t watch the game only highlights but his form on that corner three he sunk looked way batter than past seasons. He used to pull the ball from his hip but it looked more compact so hopefully that means a quicker release and more consistency. Glad to hear he was his usual self on D. Can’t wait for the regular season

    :Hungryfordoom:
     
  8. Astros

    Astros - Rookie -

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2023
    Messages:
    308
    Likes Received:
    883
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Offline


    Cmon bruh....

    Next closest defender on him was at the rim and he clanks the corner of the rim and backboard...
     
    abeer3 likes this.
  9. FrontOfJersey22

    FrontOfJersey22 - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2021
    Messages:
    6,355
    Likes Received:
    11,099
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Shooters gonna shoot.

    :Laugh:
     
    ElginTheGreat and Toklat like this.
  10. JSM

    JSM - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    20,090
    Likes Received:
    78,469
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    He looks... healthy. And i think that's really case. Ride that wave until it crashes and it will because of his style of play. It was nice to see him scorch the net in practice and in the summer but in- game, like like more of the same. Same hands on offense too, unfortunately.
     
    ElginTheGreat likes this.
  11. Pioneer10

    Pioneer10 - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2019
    Messages:
    5,983
    Likes Received:
    16,140
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Just an awful offensive player: no way around it.
    That contract is looking bad as he's hard to dump
     
    ElginTheGreat and NickthaQuick like this.
  12. Toklat

    Toklat - Lakers Starter -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    2,500
    Likes Received:
    6,508
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Sometimes it takes awhile for practice to translate into games but Vando did look awful offensively.
     
  13. Pioneer10

    Pioneer10 - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2019
    Messages:
    5,983
    Likes Received:
    16,140
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    It's getting in his head. Stupid tech on Green and he's definitely looking like a deer in the headlights once he misses a jumper.

    Tough he needs to stay aggressive but be smart about it. Maybe better off when he's wide open is dribble to a dribble handoff to a shooter like Luka or AR and when he screens that will give them a wide open jumper. Green ironically does this really well. He uses the fact that defense ignore him to still be a threat by passing and playing smart

    Problem with Vando is he's got s*** hands so you can trust him on the short roll like Green
     
    ElginTheGreat, abeer3 and Toklat like this.
  14. Khmrp

    Khmrp - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2016
    Messages:
    12,243
    Likes Received:
    13,942
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Ben Simmons, bunch of social media of him working on corner 3s all net, in gm horrendous bricks, no handles stone hand too
     
  15. Khmrp

    Khmrp - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2016
    Messages:
    12,243
    Likes Received:
    13,942
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Might want take a look at Ben Simmons off season work out highlights....gota stop making excuses for Vando, its been long enough
     
    Pioneer10 and Toklat like this.
  16. Kenzo

    Kenzo - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    7,994
    Likes Received:
    16,815
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Poland
    Offline
    But, but... he swished 3's in all these training videos, worked on his shot all summer etc. I told you, he is who he is and we'll ALWAYS play 4 on 5 with him in the lineup.
     
  17. Toklat

    Toklat - Lakers Starter -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    2,500
    Likes Received:
    6,508
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline

    Agreed. I see it, It was terrible, worst than last year...lol.
     
  18. abeer3

    abeer3 - Lakers Legend -

    Top Poster Of Month

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    31,255
    Likes Received:
    85,328
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    i was on record as both a non-believer and non-carer re: vando's threes. he's not going to be able to do it. move past it, vando and everyone.

    he needs more reps taking it to the rim on the short roll instead of spending any time ever parked in the corner. you use non-shooters by involving them as screeners, passers, ballhandlers. i was encouraged by some stuff in the preseason in this regard, but he just needs live action reps here. not sure he can get them while we're trying to win games.

    but gs is a bad vando matchup just like it's a bad center matchup. kerr makes you pay for skill and/or hoop iq deficits. vando's reasonably intuitive but fully unskilled. it's why kerr hates kuminga and is only playing him to up his trade value.
     
    Panko and ElginTheGreat like this.
  19. Pioneer10

    Pioneer10 - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2019
    Messages:
    5,983
    Likes Received:
    16,140
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    twitterati are bagging on JJ's lack of set plays - it's been a consistent issue with him getting his players into the best spots for them to succeed. JJ seems really focused on getting his main guys into spots like Luka attacking Gobert last year but loses track of what is best for the team if feels like. You have to have good play calls to maximize bad players more then good players.
     
    Panko likes this.
  20. FrontOfJersey22

    FrontOfJersey22 - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2021
    Messages:
    6,355
    Likes Received:
    11,099
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Yeah, this guy is going to take some seasons to figure it out. Hopefully by then, we will have the right pieces around Luka who can shoot and defend.
     
    Panko likes this.

Share This Page