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  1. Slick2021

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    They are going to skate on this one bro.lol no pun intended. It is what it is.
     
  2. LTLakerFan

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    LOL I have a second bridge “too far over the shark” for you which you jump with that nonsense that all the money is going to his uncle. You’re JMSU half the time with your takes. :clap:
     
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    People get away with muggings, carjacking, rapes and murders everyday too. Doesn’t make it right.
     
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    Understood..I just don't think the smoking gun exists in this particular situation.
     
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    again, we've had two conversations the whole time. the one i want to fight about is whether it's right, not whether it is. i know what's happening.
     
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    No ones saying we were beaten because Vando played. We are saying that we were outscored in the minutes he played. He provides lots of value defensively and an equal amount of drawback offensively. Maybe the coach or system can hide his offensive issues and maximise his defensive value. But it would help alot if he could be a natural offensively - which should be kind of the least you ask from a professional NBA player.
     
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    Free Vando!! This will be his best campaign yet!!

    :FistPump:
     
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    Why not a Quentin Grimes sign and trade?

    Grimes is a 25-year old 3 and D switchable guard. Offensively, he is a career 15 ppg, 2.9/7.6 threes per 36, with 38% accuracy. On the defensive side, he has a solid DBPM of -0.1. I'm expecting big things from Smart, but Grimes could fill a role as either a starter or 6th man. And, most importantly, he is a two-way player, which we have a shortage on lately. Supposedly he is asking for 25 million per year, and the Sixers are offering around 10. I would see if they would take Vincent, Kleber, and the 2031 1st (top-8 protected) for Grimes, and 2nd round picks in 2027,2028, and 2030 or something like that. It would be a sign-and-trade in a deal that starts at around 18 million.
     
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    Yeah, Vando's shooting is actually way worse than it shows because they tried to station him strictly in the corner and there's no defender close to him and he still clanks. Imagine if teams actually tried to guard him.

    You know it's bad when we start praying he just makes ONE...

    At a point, Lakers needed him... but with Rui, LaRavia, and Knecht on the roster, Vando's defense better be DPOY-like if he's expecting big minutes.

    I'd rather Knecht and LaRavia get the playing time so you can see if they can gain confidence and be a solid rotational player.
     
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    I was asking for this about 4-5 weeks ago. There's a lot of reasons why Philly would do this. Firstly, Grimes walks next year if he just takes the QO now. Secondly, Philly is in cap hell. They have 55m going to Embiid who is kind of finished, 52m going to PG who was a shell of himself last year. Thirdly, the 76ers have Maxey, McCain and Edgecombe to hold down the two guard spots moving forward who are all better than Grimes. They need another guard to sit on the bench in case of emergency, not one that wants 30 mins a game.

    Maxey (36) / McCain (12)
    Edgecome (30) / McCain (18)

    Grimes doesn't really fit into their long term plans and would just eat cap space they desperately need. If they just keep him around to use him for this year they'll lose him for nothing.

    OR, they can S&T him. My offer would be Gabe, a 1st and one of Kleber or Vando depending on who they'd prefer. Kleber is an expiring so they're clearing cap space, while Vando is a good defensive guy to have along with all their exciting guards. Gabe is also a great guard for them in case of an emergency. If they're not interested in that, I'd offer Rui with no draft capital.

    Grimes wants a contract to start at about 20m per. He is a very good POA defender and a very good shooter. Kind of perfect with what we want to do. Can defend 1-3 and start alongside Reaves and Luka in that 1-3. Once Lebron retires, I feel we need another good defender that can credibly pickup 2-4 to round the team out, and Rui, although a good PF just can't do that. I'd rather keep him, but if we can improve by trading him, I do so.
     
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    On defense during the playoffs:

    Grimes (32) / Smart (16)
    Reaves (34) / Smart (10) / LaRavia (4)
    Luka (36) / Laravia (12)
    Lebron (34) / Rui (10) / LaRavia (4)
    Ayton (32) / Rui (16)

    Let's go!
     
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    Yeah, I feel like it would be a low-key solid move. Would remind me a bit of 2020, when we quietly added multiple 3 and D players/perimeter defenders. We ended up with the likes of Danny Green, KCP, Avery Bradley, Rondo, and Caruso all on the same team. Kuzma was also a decent 3 and D wing. The Smart acquisition sort of reminds me of the Bradley acquisition, and this type of trade would be similar. It makes sense. We are rarely in a position to do a sign-and-trade, due to usually wanted to be over the first apron. We might as well use that option that we have available to us. It's not the biggest splash move, but it has a high upside and low floor, in the short term, since we are just trading two virtually useless players right now, and a distant pick. We also get 2nds back in my scenario. The pick protections also obviously help, in the unlikely event that we were to get a top 3 pick whatever, for a generational talent. Also, I know we love Rui, and are likely signing him to an extension soon, but if you could swap him for Grimes, who is a two-way player, you have to do it. We need two-way players.
     
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    But we probably could agree to the Kleber + Vincent + 2031 first round pick (top-5 protected) for Grimes + 2027, 2028, 2030 2nd deal, and follow that up with an extension for Rui. I like that Grimes is a player you could go ahead and pencil in for 30+ mpg. Redick likes to go small, so Rui might basically be our backup center moving forward, for a few minutes anyway. Rui also loves L.A., and Lakers love Rui. So, I could see them agreeing to a deal that is fair for both parties. Give both Grimes and Rui 4 years/72 million.
     
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    I don’t agree that Kleber and Vincent are virtually useless if they’re healthy and play reasonably up to past capabilities for specific needs and depth, but they are both expiring and we also need to come away with hopefully decent value for them going forward and this would be a win win for both teams it seems …. especially if it let us keep Rui.
     
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    Yeah, you just have to make this deal. I look at it like this. If we traded Kleber + Vincent + Knecht + 1st for Wiggins, we would have to pay Wiggins 30 million for the 26-27 season. And we would also likley sign Rui to an extension starting at around 17 million. So that's 47 million tied up in your 5th and 6th man. Because, Reaves amd Ayton are also going to get paid. Do the Kleber + Vincent + 1st for Grimes trade, and the payroll is not as bloated. The 1st scenario is difficult to pull off (with Lebron coming back too).

    Grimes + Rui + Knecht for 39 million > Wiggins + Rui for 47 million.

    The deal makes a ton of sense. Lakers need to get on the phone.
     
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    We know they lurk here how many trades have they done that they’ve probably stolen from having been discussed on LB that we would like?

    :Fishwink:
     
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    Three- peat in the making :Laugh:
     
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    Multi-year ?
    He's 39 already
     
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    How many years does this dude have left? He’s been one of the best late career performers in my recent memory. The last guy, besides the obvious LeBron, to still be effective this late was Vince Carter.
     
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