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  1. abeer3

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    i tend to think it's real; almost seems like a media release to try and put pressure on one side or the other.

    anyway, i'm still pretty worried about giving up too much for wiggins. the only way it would make sense as rumored is if a) we really don't plan on keeping rui long-term and b) we also don't plan on taking advantage of cap flexibility next summer.

    i guess if i knew all that were true, i'd be more open to the move. but knecht AND a 1st on top of it means i need something else coming back.
     
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    lol, non-nba fans have no idea who kawhi leonard is. most people in the world know who leonardo dicaprio is. your tree planting company gets a much bigger return on value from the more famous endorser.

    That's your opinion, you don't get to decide what some company pays a player for an endorsement. They weren't scamming on producing, a 330M movie either. It was a scam, they weren't interested in some possible return from dicaprio.

    anyway, my hot dog stand chose to give all the proceeds of the 50 million dollars worth of dogs i bought from them to a player on the basketball team i own. stay out of my business! i don't know why they suck at managing the hot dog stand! not my problem!

    The investment was 62M and they only paid out 21M if that. So the other money was just to be considered a gift?
     
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    If Wiggins can become our version of A-ARon Gordon that Denver got( a guy who started focusing more on the defensive end) then I could see it working out for us. For me, this “if” is too large of a gamble.
    I’m still very “meh” about him, so I would prefer Rob waits to see what shakes loose later near the trade deadline.
     
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    Funny how you didn’t have any problem believing the link that I posted with absolutely no proof even though my opening sentence is “If this is true.” We have no bank records, no employees saying it was circumventing the cap, no contracts paying other A list stars less money.
     
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  5. abeer3

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    it's almost as if...critical thinking was secondary...nay...tertiary...to confirming my pre-existing opinion?

    not sure how a single argument you've made against the fake hot dog stand holds up. and i get it: you're saying that if you're rich, the fake hot dog stand is ok. i just think that if this was a real person with whom you were competing for resources, you'd be after their throat instead of licking their boots.
     
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    Latest from Pablo .... love it, he's like a pit bull that won't let go while the Clippers insult everyone's intelligence.



    "In our judgment, the Leonard deal was not in the company's best interest. It was strategically difficult to justify then, and it remains so today."

    Rojeh Avanesian
    Former Chief Financial Officer, Aspiration

    Mike Shuckerow
    Former Chief Operating Officer and Chief Legal Officer, Aspiration

    Eric Anderson
    Former Chief Technology Officer, Aspiration"
     
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    100%

    cuban's got skeletons in his closet
     
  8. abeer3

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    yeah, these guys need to figure out what torre has before they pop off. he's got more than he's shown still, imo.

    and no, he doesn't have steve ballmer's grandmother posing for a photo with steve and kawhi and aspiration's ceo holding a joint check verified in person by a bank manager, all witnessed by the entire supreme court.

    but he's got enough, and has had enough the whole time, else he wouldn't have come with anything.

    but go on with the defense. it's becoming entertaining.
     
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    He said he had more or much more around 4-5 days ago.

    Else why hasn’t Ballz pulled the Trump card and sued him for 2 billion. It’s not like he’s the Wall Street Journal. ;)
     
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    :LLLLLebronlaughing:
    Pics or it didn’t happen.
     
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    ironically, he opened with some pics! the former CEO's statement refers to the same document torre used to make his allegations. he just claimed it could be interpreted differently. and really, he just claimed HE had nothing to do with the f***ery that ensued. again, ballmer and his media minions just assume nobody will think long enough about it to realize how absolutely full of s*** all of the defenses of this already-exposed paper trail are.

    there were no such trails for dirk, td, or udonis haslem. there was an even more obvious one for joe smith. if you need joe smith evidence, then you don't have any rules anymore.
     
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    You’re too funny. When I take a picture of this credential really what are you gonna say? I still have it in my house in my room.
     
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    This trade doesn’t work without a 3rd team. It can’t be Rui & Dalton for Wiggins because the contracts don’t fit.

    I’d prefer if it was Gabe, Kleber & Dalton for Wiggins as I like Rui.

    Luka / Smart
    Reaves /
    Wiggins / Vando
    Lebron / Rui / LaRavia
    Ayton / Hayes

    But, the above doesn’t really make sense though, most likely we trade Rui & Dalton for Wiggins. Gabe slots as backup 1, smart as backup 2, Vando and LaRavia as backup forwards. Kleber as backup C.

    Think the writing is on the wall and for whatever reason, Rui is a piece we’re looking to move to improve.
     
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    I’ll say you were right. I didn’t say you were lying. I said I would need proof. Just like you need proof about Ballmer.
     
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    I don’t like the Wiggins for Rui +filler trade. I hope we don’t do it.
     
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    Wiggins just doesn’t feel like the move that gets us over the top.
     
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    wiggins for nothing is an over-the-top move. wiggins for rui (plus all the other stuff) isn't.
     
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    Really, why has he not gone the many millions of dollars immediate lawsuit route on this single guy. Who of course would have to get pro bono representation if Ballz turned loose also many millions of lawyer dollars claiming he's been slandered. Someone made the comment early on about that in regard to The Athletic .... that Ballmer could END them if their claims were actually unsubstantiated. Clearly this little guy too, right?

    :Crazyartest:
     
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    Man, why are you constantly defending and making excuses for Kawhi.

    Are you on the wrong forums?

    1) Why does he need to do this? Because he wanted Kawhi.

    2) Duped? He clearly did his 'due diligence' considering his team agreed to a $300 million deal with Aspiration. Ballmer shows up to every Clippers game... He clearly cares about the team deeply. And sometimes when you care so much, you do things you shouldn't have done. If Kawhi, who was arguably a top 3 player in the league at that time was willing to go to your team if you could find a way to give him some extra stuff on the side, guess what? He's going to do it. Because he's Steve Ballmer and did the same with Microsoft.

    3) From a business standpoint, it doesn't make sense. True. That's why everyone doesn't believe Ballmer's lie because he's not dumb. You make it seem like Ballmer is some random dude just getting into bad deals when in reality, he was always known as the CEO who was driven by numbers, data, analytics, etc., That's how he ran Microsoft as CEO.

    4) You have zero clue he didn't do it in 2019. Could have done it with a different company and that hasn't been revealed yet. Only way to check is to go through Kawhi's financials and investments. Considering Uncle Dennis was already making demands in 2019 to Toronto/Lakers, what makes you think he wouldn't with the Clippers? What makes you think Ballmer, being as desperate as he was to get Kawhi (even trading Shai and many first rounders) for PG13 (who they didn't even want), trading away their future wouldn't do anything to get Kawhi?

    All the owners have to approve a sale... so what? That doesn't mean they're happy with him cheating. They approved it for an obvious reason. Wanna know what it is? Ballmer offered a record-breaking deal for the Clippers which in turn, meant everyone's valuation skyrocketed since the Clippers were the new 'base' price. And I'm sure having a rich owner like Ballmer in any type of deal is beneficial.

    The excuses you make are weird, man. You claim you're an insider or whatever with all these connections but everything you have written is silly nonsense.
     
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    Did they justify the other deals that led to defrauding investors of the 200M that had absolutely nothing to do with the Heyena's endorsement deal? Just saying... how much credibility, is a statement from execs of a company, that defrauded to tune of 248M dollars, is supposed to be given? On anything? Are they saying similar things, about the other stuff? Are they trying to pin everything on the CEO, and act like they weren't involved in any shady dealings? See...this is the type of things Silver has to weigh, when looking at this situation. Hell yeah these people are going to minimize their roles, and point the finger at the guy, that already plead guilty to fraud, who wouldn't do that in a similar situation?
     
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