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  1. FrontOfJersey22

    FrontOfJersey22 - Lakers All Star -

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    Wait a second. He “has a right to complain about not getting enough help?”
    No way. He literary torpedoed any chance of building a deep roster after demanding that Rob trade all of our proven pieces for Westbrick. Our FO has been scrambling every season to recoup that depth while constantly being sandbagged by LeWhine through the press.
    The only big blunder that’s “hurt his chances” has been not bringing back Caruso.
    I understand that you’re a LeBron fan, but it’s just not truthful stating that our FO hasn’t bent over backwards to make this dude happy- at least, up until this summer.
     
  2. FrontOfJersey22

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    I think our FO would much rather have all THREE firsts available to steal Joker or Giannis away. Neither of those teams would want a past his prime Wiggins to rebuild with. They would actually want multiple guys like Dalton plus picks and filler to develop in a rebuild.
     
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  3. FrontOfJersey22

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    Yeah, where’s the evidence that we are “punting?”
    Not making the best pitch ever for a super flawed Beal who we don’t have enough money for?
    Not begging a washed CPDirty to join up?
    Not begging a washed Lopez to come and save us?
    Where’s this huge opportunity trade that would have turned us into an immediate contender overnight?
    Let’s hear the scenarios that Rob fumbled.
    I don’t buy this narrative.
    Our assets have been diminished year after year after year since LeWhine has been here because we keep making bad trades for lower valued assets just to prove to him that we “are doing something.”
     
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    I think we are top3 seed. We were with Hayes. So my educated guess is that with Ayton we're a lock there.

    I don't get this drama really. After Luka we were top 1 at times and a top5 team all over, we added Ayton and people are writing us off. I don't get it. After 10 games we are 7-3 and everything will be alright.

    I agree we don't have enough for the playoffs, but that's 10 months from now.

    I haven't seen anyone talking about punting seasons. But between sending Rui+Knecht+FRP for Wiggins/Ellis or KCP and punting a season, there's a lot of layers.


    Where has our FO been clear about punting the next 2 seasons. Can you share a link?
     
  5. FrontOfJersey22

    FrontOfJersey22 - Lakers All Star -

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    I don’t think they are.
    They have lined up their contracts so that only a few guys will be on the books two summers from now.
    The talk about not bringing DFS back for a “four year deal” has turned into “punting the next two seasons” on the Laker centric talk shows.
    I consider this wise asset management.
    LakerNation
    Basketball Bulletin
    Cowherd
    Buha
    https://www.spotrac.com/nba/los-angeles-lakers/yearly

    As it stands, without trades, we only have Luka, Austin, LaRavia and Thiero under contract two summers from now. This is where all the “punting” talk comes from.
    Some think that we can just sign and or trade for any contracts we wish, regardless of the reality of the situation. I think most talking heads aren’t truthful about just how heavy the Lakers tax increases the probability of getting fleeced. We see it play out every season where player A gets traded to team B for much less than what the Lakers were rumored to have to pay.
     
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    We are not a 3 seed as is, IMO, unless I suppose if Luka has an insane season and absolutely carries us. We have very little defense, our bench is still bad, probably one of the worst in the West and has maybe 2 players on it that can create their own shot. It’s fine to me if you want to say Rob has done what he can to this point, but that doesn’t mean we are a great team, especially with a good chunk of the West getting significantly better. Yeah we were the 3 seed last season, but we were like 2 games out of 8th, that’s how tight the conference is. I just don’t get why you can’t say Rob has done what he could to this point, and that we aren’t that good at the same time, both can be true.

    Some teams have put distance between us, some have passes us up, currently I would put us at 5 or 6, and that can change depending on moves still made by us or others. Some teams that weren’t in the mix last year may be this year with better injury luck or just a year of experience like SA and NO. The goal should always be to improve in all areas possible, and I don’t think we have done much of that, only really at center, and as we are that is not enough.
     
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    I'd put us in fifth. I'd say OKC, Denver and Houston are 1,2 and 3 respectively, and I'd slot Minny at 4 just ahead of us. Right behind us I have the oldies: GS and the Clips. We're top of the second tier and the regular season should be fine. We also have the benefit of continuity with our squad.

    I don't see any evidence of punting. The asking price on Wiggins from Miami is too high. We got a brilliant deal on Ayton for no assets. If moves need to be made to improve at the deadline I expect that to be the time where we use some assets. Hopefully we can pick up another guard for vet min or just over this summer.
     
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    We’re in that 3-7 mix; but there’s no move I’ve seen that would get us out of it
     
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    I don’t get this chatter. I really don’t. I try to like all your posts.

    But really why is a team talked about 5 6th 7th 8th

    that was a rested quarter of Lebron and Luka from beating the Twolves. Again we had a clear non call foul that led to the game winning bucket.

    We make two free throws Luka makes two free throws we’re up.

    Who the F is crowning Houston??????? When was the last time Durant was in the playoffs????

    Lebron needs to get his ish together realize he is a clutch playoff player and this team can win the championship. He has to be a Kobe. Will your team to victory. Make them believe. It’s a joke.

    You know what wins championships. I’ll say it again. Depth Bench strength in numbers.


    We f***ing acquired our Center Ayton and didn’t trade one player. That’s brilliant.

    We lost because we didn’t have a Center. Honestly fellas with Luka if we had a Center we would’ve beat OKC.

    Newsflash they weren’t the 2001 Lakers.

    Lukas really good like really good. So is Ayton. And LeBron.

    Hilero is going to be a swarming defender. That’s why they traded for him. You have Vando on the perimeter. And Rui. And you want to trade for Wiggins???? Nah you don’t do that.

    Knect has looked way better at summer league. Shooting the ball great. At summer league I just want to see if he’s doing what he needs to do for us and that’s shoot that corner 3 and that’s what he is doing great. And making it.

    Cause Luka will be driving and finding him. That’s Knects game. That ain’t Reaves game.

    That’s Ruis game not Wiggins game. Like when yall Post about trades think about how the player fits in the system.

    I get the 3D wing thing. But how does Wiggins fit when Luka is driving and kicking how does that help us on offense with Lebron.

    cause I guarantee I’m sagging off daring Wiggins to shoot that jumper.

    Ayton I’m staying on him.

    see with Ayton in the post paint shooting mid range. We’re gonna space out with shooters like Knect and Hachimura and teams are going to pay. We are very hard to defend.

    Hielo and Vando Rui even Bronny to some extent that has to be your perimeter defense. We can’t be paying guys to defend and they don’t defend. Vando is the guy.

    Beal I don’t know. He’s an idiot if he signs with the Clippers over us he won’t win a championship. How much money do you need???

    sign Simmons and call it a day.

    Bronny step up.

    Lebron you gotta stop being a diva man. You’re a billionaire you’re in L.A. you got your family with you Bronny on your team. Why are you complaining.

    And the Lakers had to do that yes dinner at Craig’s. What were they supposed to do not have a dinner with the player they traded Anthony Davis for????? Yeah I think the plan was to sign him to an extension. So might want to show him what we have planned. He is our franchise player. Show him L.A. Craig’s Hollywood. It’s convenient. Luka Doncic was staying at the Beverly Hills hotel at the time.

    this is no different then anything the Lakers would’ve done with Magic Johnson or Kobe Bryant.

    they did it with LeBron. When Magic was talking about getting a center like Mgee and getting playmakers to help him Rondo.

    some of us keep receipts on these reporters. So what’s the big deal of meeting Luka and LeBron not being there. Why would LeBron be there??? He doesn’t give a F what the Lakers are doing in 2027 he’ll be owning a team in Vegas. And this was a meeting about Luka’s career as a Laker. It would be inappropriate for LeBron to be there.

    but for Windho and Romona to make this Kobe and Shaq in 2004 is irresponsible.

    Lebrons gonna do what LeBron do. The Lakers have given him 2 yr. Deals and player options they drafted his son and are developing him so those two can play together.


    Im not a fan who’s F LeBron. Only reason we have that other championship is because of LeBron. I’m not naive he had his agency Klutch. Yes it’s his agency. Get his star player Anthony Davis to force his way to the Lakers. The C Bags had a better offer. And Davis said we ain’t going there. Don’t trade for us. Your waisting your assests. Savage. We forced it fineced it. Personally I don’t think we had to give up a lot but that’s neither here nor there. Dell Demps resigned because of it.

    point is LeBron did a lot for this organization. He’ll have his statue. Let’s enjoy him while he’s here and win this championship. We gotta believe. Dig into your Mamba mentality. Stop making excuses. We got more than enough to win a championship. We gotta start with the working. Working. It’s not given it’s earned. Time for this team to start showing continuity. And show up to summer league together as a team.

    Were Lakers get off that narrative well well just wait for this star. It’s about winning a championship this season.

    Luka LeBron Ayton Reaves. We all we got.
     
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    This is the best post.
     
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    “It’s not that I don’t like the roster and think it’s good enough to compete for a championship…I’m just saying that’s a lot of white dudes on one roster.”

    Lebron (Probably)
     
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    We just gotta trust our guys. We all know we’ve been in the business of aquiring these so called Defensive wizards.

    Tauren Prince

    Gabe Vincent

    you just gotta see what it turns into.

    Hachimura was a steal. That payment is coming due.

    Caruso was a find we know what happened there. I’ll say probably our best defensive find we walked into since Ron Artest.


    We gotta see what these kids turn into Hielo could very well be that. He’s an agressive big strong defender like a Herbert Jones.

    remember Herbert Jones was a second round pick to.

    defense is all effort. We got guys who will make guys uncomfortable on the wing Hielo Vando and Rui. If you want to add to that Ben Simmons is sitting on the streets. If you want to add some length and size.

    I just want to get guys who are going to play big minutes in the regular season. And keep LeBron fresh for the playoffs.

    Malcolm Brogdon and Marcus Smart come to mind but can they stay healthy.? And if we really want to win this championship it starts now. Guys have to have that buyin. Guys have to make Ayton comfortable and what they expect outa him.

    Kobe did such a great job of that. Lebron being that Laker captain needs to do that.
     
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    Not to mention his penchant for wanting the team to be “uncomfortable” every season by turning over the roster. Most team leaders would’ve wanted to run it back after winning the chip in 2020. Not him. This may be the first time that he’s not left a franchise on fire smoking in the rear view mirror for years after his departure by mortgaging all your assets on his behalf.
     
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    no idea why he was projected as a 2nd rounder. it was obvious he has major potential from the highlights i watched of him. blazers might have themselves the steal of the draft
     
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    Lol..people still have revisionist history about the Westbrook trade. Trez is out of the League, Kuz hasn't done s*** since he left here, and KCP had one decent season in Denver. They flipped Westbrook and went to the Conference Finals, and then Tinkerbell choked away a shot at a chip. Lebron and AD being injured for most of the two seasons after the bubble, had more to do with our record than anything else.

    But I digress..carry on.
     
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    Standings doesn't really mean s*** in the West. Having good health and some team chemistry, is more important than anything else.
     
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    Thanks to Rob’s relationship with Nico and the League gifting Flagg to Dallas.
     
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    Yeah, health is the single most important factor, followed closely by which team gets hot coming into the playoffs (like the Pacers did last year). With Luka in shape, IF LeBron is healthy for the playoffs then I'm not scared of anyone. We are not as deep as OKC but our best 2 are better than anyone.
     
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    I need to see if this team, as currently constructed, can be a top 10 defensive one by mid season. I have serious doubts, and hope that Rob can still make a deal or two.
     
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    Luka is better then Shai

    Lebron is better than Williams. Lebron can go nuts in one series.

    I would Argue Ayton is better than Holmgren and can cook him.

    Rui will torch Causo Reaves will torch Caruso and Wallace.

    Thielo is young youth we have bench shooting Knect young guards Bronny. Let’s go!!!!!


    In the words of Kendrick Lamar squablle up.
     
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