Luka Doncic Discussion: "Championship Shape"?

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  1. abeer3

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    btw, okc just killing jokic's lack of mobility on defense right now, but we'll hear crickets about it.
     
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    OKC is built so well and solid across every position that they can shut down just about anyone defensively -- even Jokic. They’re already one of the top offensive teams in the league, but on top of that, they lead the NBA in defense, steals, free throw percentage, and net rating. They’re also second in blocks and the best at defending the three. They should enjoy this run while it lasts; at least until it’s time to start handing out those big contracts.

    Their bigs are already producing 12/8 and 4 blocks combined at the beginning of the 3rd. That's hard to counter. I'd like to see the Thunder-Wolves WCF.
     
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    And they lost
     
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    yeah, okc thoroughly outplayed denver and couldn't win at home in game 1. i know the feeling.
     
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    Too many mistakes down the stretch. They had it under control for most of the game and for some reason they just fell apart in the end. It's almost as if I've seen this before somewhere.
     
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    yeah, that's what i meant above. not sure what it is about denver that makes everyone s*** their pants down the stretch of games, but it's real.

    i will say the refs put denver on the line A LOT during the comeback--even before the bizarre intentional fouling. it almost felt like they were trying to make it a game when it kind of hadn't been for most of the night. still, though, just mindbogglingly bad mental game from okc to close the game.
     
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    Denver should treat the next game like it's game 7. Winning it = series over. OKC will fold like a cheap lawn chair.
     
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    @abeer3 Denver has a system and dominates the glass while OKC and Clippers are playing what Kobe described as "accidental basketball" at its finest .
     
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    yeah, i suppose. i felt like okc went away from their offense a bit because they got tight. they weren't trusting the ball movement anymore, and then they even stopped trusting their own abilities. like...SGA was shying away from isos against braun. they were trying to get additional screens to get braun off him. i was like...just take him...you're supposed to be the mvp! he would try, and denver would collapse as predicted, but the wasted seconds looking for better matchups was weird to me.

    anyway, beyond that, i'm going to revisit yesterday's topic in the other thread and say that gordon and braun just played outstanding in this game on both ends. when you talked about denver dominating the glass, yes, jokic gobbles up boards, but braun and gordon were just bullying the okc guys, as was russ, tbh. imagine if braun and gordon were on our team instead of DFS and gabe.
     
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    Braun was my MIP and as I said before , Gordon is one of the latest true PF in the game . I like the physicality he brings to the table , his outside shooting improvement being a great bonus .

    Lakers brains only see the game through offense and boxscores , this is why we can't advance in the playoffs .

    They probably think Rui is better than Gordon LMAO
     
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    Gordon is what you hope Rui could be. He has the shooting and hops but the level of tenacity particularly on the glass is such a huge difference with Gordon. He's going to try to punish you
     
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    Yeah but Braun is on a great rookie contract, and Gordon makes 23M heading to 31M in 26. I don't think Rob would be willing to cough out that much cash for a 31 year old Gordon.
     
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    Lol...still....Jokic>Luka. A ray of hope here though....I do believe that Jokic had some conditioning concerns at 26 too.
     
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    not for long. if they don't come to an agreement this summer, i think he goes into RFA next year. some guys are really balling out these playoffs looking for contracts (see reid, naz and randle, julius).

    i think we'd totally pay gordon. our problem is that he plays the same position as lebron. we need a wing version of gordon. my pick is still keon ellis, but i think there are others that fit the bill.

    yeah, just not by a tremendous margin. again, recency bias. watch last year, when jokic was sent home early and luka was dominating on the way to the finals at this time. yes, yes, luka's career ended in the nba finals at age 25, i know...fat, lazy, bad defender, etc.
     
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    I'll be surprised if OKC makes it out of this round. When things get tight they don't know how to react.

    They can only take the blows for so long. It gets tight and shots stop falling. Fans get all excited about the regular season dominance. Doesn't matter if you don't have a closer. Dallas figured out last year that if you keep the games close until the end you can close them out.
     
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    Morant is one of the most physically gifted players we’ve ever seen and look at where that’s gotten him so far.
    I’ll take an intelligent, less athletic player every single time. Our fellow Laker brethren have been so spoiled over the years, that they enjoy tearing down perennial MVP candidates, constantly. It’s not just us, is League-wide:
    “If only Jokic would stop playing with his horsies throughout the summer and get ripped!”
    The dude is unreal on the court with his “non athletic” body, and so is Luka.
     
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    I saw Jason Williams say Doncic is 26 and has the body of a 40 year old and Lebron is 40 and has the body of a 26 year old.

    :Laugh:

    Luka will not have longevity in this game unless he makes changes. Just facts.
     
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    The longevity does not even matter that much in this case, since most players from the Balkans retire relatively young anyway. Basically, you can almost certainly expect retirement between the age of 33 and 36. Some retired at 37, but basically warmed the bench and did nothing in their final year.

    He needs to sign a long contract with us now, stay until he is 31 and we'll evaluate the situation afterwards.
     
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