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  1. showtime24

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    That's not bad. Though underwhelming, it does kind of check the box of stretch 5 and perimeter defender, and we could get them for very cheap. I don't see a huge gap between Davion and Vincent though. In any case, this could be a good low-risk/low-cost fall back option for us.
     
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    This is spot on, problem is both archetypes of player are super valuable. Very hard to see us being able to get both with the assets we have to trade. For the 3&D athlete guy, the only names available are probably Lonzo and Bruce Brown, and they're only available because they have legit injury concerns. As for the stretch 5 that can defend, its Turner or bust basically. Every other name can do the stretching or the rim protecting, but not both.
     
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    If Rui is not for trade who is going to be traded
    Los Angeles Lakers
    Lakers Insider: Team Source Rejected Idea of Rui Hachimura Trade Ahead of Deadline
    Doric Sam
    January 23, 2025

    As the Feb. 6 trade deadline quickly approaches, it sounds like the Los Angeles Lakers aren't willing to give up a key member of their rotation.

    During an appearance on Buha's Block, Dan Woike of the Los Angeles Times said he spoke to a team source who expressed doubt over the possibility of starting wing Rui Hachimura being traded by this season's deadline.

    "I spoke to a Lakers source about this where I was talking about a trade that involves Rui Hachimura going out in the trade and they're like, 'I don't know, Rui's pretty good,'" Woike said around the 49:33 mark.
     
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    that's what i was thinking. one could argue that they're winning the talent end, tbh. but we get a couple guys who can fill in spots where we're weak. olynyk is still a solid 20-25mpg center, who we could use off the bench or as a starter. his contract then becomes expiring next year if it doesn't work out (just like rui's). mitchell's fit is theoretical more than realistic at this point, but he's a recent lotto pick who was chosen for defensive reasons. that hasn't happened yet, but i feel like there are examples of guys like this that floundered at first before finding the right role (usually bulldog bench guard). he's gabe insurance in case he dies again, too.

    their core guys are apparently barnes and d***, with barrett and quickley also guys they probably want to keep. rui definitely can play a role that they don't have someone playing right now, imo.
     
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    I told you guys this same thing over a week ago after the Lakers released it And nobody wanted to hear it.
    Could it be misinformation? Maybe. Maybe not.
    As for Turner, he’s one of the rare guys I’de give up both firsts and Dalton for, with of course Rui going out as well.
    I’m skeptical that Indy would even trade with us considering our past experience.
     
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    So, what if Turner is not available? Would it be better to get a stretch 5 who has defensive concerns, or a defensive 5 who can't stretch the floor at all? Also, if the Lakers are truly in win-now mode, then they should bite the bullet and take the risk on a player with injury concerns, if those are the only options. Basically, we are looking at not getting an ideal return, but should do the best we can to appease Lebrin and AD if we are in actually in win-now mode.
     
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    This is actually pretty funny. It's like the Lakers think that they are going to improve without trading any players that are "pretty good" and just trade our trash for good players. :Laugh:

    Its probably just posturing. Lakers might be utilizing the media for trade purposes, as they should.
     
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    Trading for DFS was possibly a preemptive move to replace the hole that could potentially be left by Rui with a better fit in terms of defense, shot profile, and fit.
     
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    Rob just read Jemison and Koloko stats from last game in G league
     
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    No way that Rui is untouchable, as we've said before there are only three guys who are on this team. Even Austin might not be but it would have to be for a bona fide superstar which isn't happening. I think the young guys Max and Knecht are safe for the most part. But even Knecht might go for the right deal. The statement above is correct, Rui is pretty good. He's a nice talent on a decent contract. He's also the last big contract we can use to shore up some holes, notably at Center now that Vando is back for that perimeter D guy off the bench.
     
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    At 50%, Reaves is among the worst in defensive field-goal percentage among point guards. Rui is also bad, at 49.5%, one of the worst defensive forwards. That is a huge part of the points in the paint-allowed issue for us. In contrast, Max is one of the best, at 42.6%, that's why we gained some improvement with Max over Dlo, but we still need a lot of help.
     
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    Since our defense is one of the worst in the League, I would pick the best defensive big available.
     
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    Rui + JHS to Toronto for Olynek + Agbaji works perfectly.
     
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    But we are also the worst three-point shooting team in the league. If you swap Rui for a non-shooting big, you make the shooting even worse.
     
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    Who is this guy , never heard of him
    Lakers insider Jason Timpf ?
    Los Angeles Lakers receive: Bruce Brown, Collin Sexton, Walker Kessler, Jonathan Mogbo

    Utah Jazz receive: Gabe Vincent, Jarred Vanderbilt, 2029 First-Round pick, 2031 First-Round pick (Top 10 protected)

    Toronto Raptors receive: Rui Hachimura, Jalen Hood-Schfino, Cam Reddish, 2025 Second-Round pick (From Los Angeles Clippers), 2025 Second-Round pick
     
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    Well, I value defense over offense, every single time.
    Just checked our 3pnt rating and we aren’t far from middle of the pack at 19th.
     
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    Well, Reaves isn’t going anywhere so better learn to live with it. I wish he was better on D too, but there’s no path to trading for a great two way PG at this point in time.
    There’s a less than zero chance that we have a chance at trading for Fox. Plus, the trade chatter surrounding him has died down recently.
     
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    I agree that Reaves is likely not moving. Can't have two of those guys playing big minutes in the rotation though, so Ruis got to go.
     
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