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receiving an S&T hardcaps you at the first apron, right? the way i understand it, we have to first offload 10+ million to a cap space team, and then move roughly equal salary to whatever klay wants (he turned down 2/48 last summer).

i just don't get why we do this. we'll be losing at least two rotation players for a guy that a competitor is letting walk--a competitor with insanely deep pockets who is willing to burn down their golden era so as not to pay this guy.

do not like it.

 

Klay for the MLE is worth it imo... just hope Christie doesn't get lost in the shuffle

 

He's just lost so much of his two way ability, it's tough. I really hate the combination of him with Rui, Vando, and Austin.

If you can follow that up with a flip of a filler package + picks for Grant, even though Portland blocked our number decades ago OK...I like it better.

You have to infuse some two way talent to the top 6 of this team. There's no way around that.

Best case you get the best player Bron will sign off on to take a paycut for, then you trade DLO, a pick and leftovers (too many bodies) for the best two way talent you can get, retain Spencer, go get CP, and best wing or big for the min depending on who the Bron approved target is.

The roster balance is off and Klay doesn't address that.

 

we need to shake things up man, and Klay is the goat catch and shooter of this generation, plus even if his defense is not where it was, he's still a better defender than any of our guards.

I'm all for it, as long as the terms are reasonable.

plus Klay is one of the coolest, most likeable dudes in the league and a great locker room guy.

 

to use that mle, we're moving rui or dlo into air and probably paying in draft capital to do it. is klay worth that? is he better than rui or dlo right now? by how much? i get that lebron thinks so, but lebron thought westbrook was worth 70% of a championship level roster, so...his opinion sucks a**.

 

i'll grant most of that (not the defense part...he's slipped considerably and was overrated even at his peak on that end), but i'm still a pretty hard no. i'm actually kind of upset that we're considering it. like this will be the thing that ends it all. and maybe we weren't going anywhere in a really crowded west with lebron halfway in the retirement home, but i think this would really shut the door on the lebron/AD era.

 

Klay Thompson at 20-25 min a game, isn't an impact player? Playing off of Lebron and AD? With the boy genius, X and O wizard JJ Redick, drawing up plays for him?

Damn..When you look at the ..."Fallen of the cliff, can't shoot or defend anymore " Klay Thompson's numbers, he's still pretty similar to Austin Reaves.

I don't think Thompson would be the only move made either.




https://stathead.com/basketball/ver...urce=bbr&utm_medium=sr_xsite&utm_id=thompkl01

 

austin reaves makes less money, can floor the ball and initiate offense, is many years younger, defends better, and doesn't cost us 1-2 rotation players to acquire.

it would be different if we could just add thompson. that's not the situation unless lebron takes a HUGE paycut. not holding my breath there.

 

Here’s a better way to look at it.

Assuming Klay would take the MLE, if you think we would be better off without him, who do you take with the MLE instead?

Valencunias? Sure he does fill a need as a serviceable starter quality center but would he really improve the team much more than Klay? We know Valencunias wouldn’t even be on the floor in the final minutes of most games while Klay would be. He will absolutely open up so much more spacing for Lebron and AD to operate.

Even if Klay is “washed”, I would want him to shoot the 3 if left open all day. I could argue he would still provide more of an impact now than Rui or Vando.

We are only in the conversation of Klay for the MLE because apparently he is also considering Dallas who can also only offer the MLE.

 

I'm not thinking about Klay, on anything above the MLE. If it was about the money, he'd stay in Frisco. That's all he's being offered in Dallas. It's my understanding that Lebron coughing up 18M, gives us the 12M for the MLE.

What does the trading Rui and TB into thin air mean? How do you know we didn't intend on trading them anyway?


And Austin takes to long to get us into sets against ball pressures. That's why we need another ball handler to play with him. He's still better off the bench IMO.

 

after dlo opted in, whatever comes at the MLE has to be better than him + what it takes to dump him.

that list is short to non-existent, tbh. trades are the only way now, and not received S&Ts.

close call, but i take valanciunas. the other 36 minutes of the game matter. as does AD's health.

this is possible. he's like the offensive version of vando. but everybody hates vando because he's not useful on one end. you say klay's going to be on the floor at the end...not if the other team is hunting mismatches.

dallas is like us in that they have to worry about apron stuff. they made a move to get the breathing room (we have yet to do that), but they have to choose between trading for klay (and losing more assets) and retaining djj (probably more valuable than thompson and a better fit for their roster).

i think there's no bidding war, tbh. gs doesn't want him. the cap space teams don't want him. why do we?

 

Meh..Golden State offered him 24M per..their view of his value. That's not exactly an example, of not wanting him.

Klay is a free agent, why do you keep talking about trading for him?

 

well, they aren't offering it now. what does that say?

again, you do realize how big of a deal it is that gs is willing to let him just walk, right? it's sorta crazy. like, while i don't want to give him mle, i think they should give him 2/60. they paid draymond, for pete's sake!

 

Whatever happened between them, is up for debate. Maybe he told them that he was out, after their last offer?

 

Probably hurt he wasn’t valued as much as Curry after giving his all and got injured in the process

 

possible. again--what does that say about how the team that knows him best values his contributions?

absolutely. i get it. i'm on his team here, actually. they should have offered him more, imo--not for what he can do but for what he's done. they're willing to burn all that down. again, what does that mean?

 

Someone is getting traded, this was happening , before this Klay thing came up IMO. We were just waiting for C'lo, to stop fronting, like he was opting out.

 

Call us a corny organization but we value our superstars over anything, that’s our “wrestling gimmick” we will endure suckiness to repay for your service in your declining years. We did it for Kobe Kareem Magic and for LeBron now. Warriors not doing it for Klay is a stark contrast to how we treat our stars.

 

Not sure if you missed the Lebron news, the idea of acquiring Klay or others via MLE and/or sign and trade is specifically stemming from Klutch saying that Lebron WILL be willing to take a massive paycut IF it helps facilitate acquiring a big target like Klay.

So we wouldn’t have to offload any of our other players to make it happen, it’s all predicated on Lebron’s paycut and the timing of the official signings.

So for example we could agree to terms with Klay on a NTPMLE signing, then Lebron signs his new contract that starts with a large paycut, THEN we official sign Klay. All within the first apron.

Could theoretically fit a sign and trade into that too since the NTPMLE signing would already hard cap us at the first apron anyways

I get that there is reason to be skeptical about Lebron’s willingness to take a paycut, but Rich Paul seemed quite definitive here that it’s truly on the table:

Paul said James would be willing to work with the Lakers on signing a deal below the maximum three-year, $162 million he is eligible for to open up the full $12.9 million midlevel exception to sign an "impact player.