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How about this. For the simple bang for the buck dollars value in the first place ... and secondly to put a stop to all our righteous indignation over losing and not having all these years Lopez and or Zubac .... pull the Jerry West move and trade up to get Edey. I saw a commercial yesterday with Brook and and Robin close up in their basketball jerseys. Brook now looks thinner and weaker up top. Maybe just cause off season. But that guy in his prime for how many years was a stud giant on the floor. Edey just racked up major awards throughout his 4 year Big Ten career and is one month past turning 22. He is bigger even, amazingly since he moves well enough at his size (like Brook in his early years before getting even better as Bigs do with later primes typically) .... by 5 inches in wingspan. 7''11" >>>> 7'6". Do what it takes. Is how I feel or I should never b**** and moan again about Brook and Zu.

Think of what a different type of team we could be again, when needed, going forward. Everyone still pining for Javale and or Dwight. Whether Zach can guard on the perimeter or not. Those same centers can't guard Edey down low either if the team gets him the ball.

EDIT: With giant but skinny Wemby and the other young and talented upcoming Bigs in the league plus the still established Big centers in the league, the Lakers NEED at the least some level of counter measure and at times advantageous match ups with our own next Big Man. So I sent the conversation above with JSM's post to the Lakers email address and sincerely asked it at least be passed along to the FO, as it couldn't hurt just in case that kind of discussion hadn't been had yet.

 

We aren't winning anything with Chokeolo on the roster. Lebron taking less than the max, doesn't free up any money, that we could use on another player. If our players outside of Lebron and AD are soo mediocre, why the F, do we want to keep them?

Having continuity with a mediocre roster, is only going to continue, to produce mediocre results. We have options, we have assets, Rob needs to do his job.

Same stuff every year, nobody wants our players, yet we can't do any better than the players we have now. BS

 

Our roster isn't mediocre. Reaves, Vando, Rui, DLo, Prince or Reddish are not less than Derrick Jones, PJ, Gafford, Lively and Green.
We lost against a team we don't match up well. Pretty sure we win any other series this year.
We don't need to panic. We got rid of Ham which was the biggest issue. We need another big to be able to beat Denver, but we are well built against anyone else

 

Jones is better than Vando because he has offense.Gafford and Lively are much better than Hayes and Wood.PJ is better than Rui because he plays Defense.

 

Yeah now so many are ready to chuck most of all the continuity again, when no Vando, other in and out player absences and Ham's coaching screwed all that up last year. Some sensible upgrades .... hell yeah.

 

We were not far off. Almost every team that makes it to the postseason, had a couple of years to build their team. We constantly have a changing rotation and we are still just barely missing advancing. I know Denver beat us pretty good, but we were competitive, it was not a blowout. I think we do need to do a couple of minor tweaks and then try to build some chemistry. Building chemistry was not Ham's strong suit and I believe it was what got him fired. His mistakes were glaringly obvious to anyone but him. Apparently. The injuries did not help, but they did not negate his mistakes, they just gave them questionability, ..... a little.

We need another big man who can give Jokic some muscle he has to deal with for 20 minutes a game. We probably need to turn DLO into a two way guard. That is going to be difficult. Not sure Dinwiddie or Vincent are going to be enough. Reaves is not great for one on one D, so we need someone who can be our defensive point of attack. Someone like D. Murray would be pretty good here and would likely pair great with Reaves. Not sure Reaves and Mitchell don't create the same problems we have with DLO and AR. ???? I think if we were to get Mitchell, we are looking at pairing him with Dinwiddie or Vincent. With 3 great offensive players in our lineup, Rui could be a backup and we could afford to start Vanderbilt. If we are starting Reaves and D. Murray, then we likely need Rui in the starting lineup.

I would rather see tweaks than trading everyone for a big gun. If the right deal comes our way and we just get lucky, then fine, go for the 3 star system, I just don't think we should be putting all our thinking into that scenario. Would rather see a couple of smaller tweaks. After DLO decides what he is doing, things will begin to shake out. Not too worried with either scenario.

 

I don't know about all that..we lost the season series to Denver, Minnesota, Sacramento and Dallas. Nothing guarantees that we'd beat any of those teams in a 7 game series. Chokeolo will still choke.

Hell yeah..I'd take Lively, Washington and Gafford over Reaves, Rui and Chokeolo..absolutely.

The HC can't make you hit wide open shots, move your feet on D, and not choke. Run this bunch back, and the next HC will find out the exact same thing.

 

Yes he can't make them hit shots, but he sure as heck could screw up the management of that roster along with all the other things he did poorly. Not to be gone over again here because you never acknowledge them anyway. Those were facts and why he got fired.

 

He's not here anymore. The fact remains that chokeolo chokes, Austin and Rui are weak on defense, and both are better off the bench. The next HC will find out these things for himself. It should be noted, that all 3 came up short against Denver. They got their chance to show something, and whiffed in varying degrees.

We need to move on from that trifecta, we have LeBron and AD. There are a lot of players in this league that will fit around them too.

 

zig when others zag, imo. if our scouts identify someone (carter, edey, whomever), we should use assets to move up for them, given lots of teams are selling.

 

Then stop excusing for him like it was all the players fault and the next coach will be just as ineffective because of all the players’ play. HE was a big reason for a lot of it. You can’t keep trashing Vogel while you defend THAT chump.

 

Oh, I agree. As per all my posts on this issue, I’m not “for” a three star build

 

Vogel ain't here either. It's the players man! I've always said that it's the players. Vogel sucked because he went 10-31, in the 2nd half of the season. Your a** deserves to get fired for that... period..end of story.

Ham worked with what he had, they weren't as good, as we thought they would be. We had a better team last season in the playoffs. It is what it is..Ham got fired, that's the NBA.

These players we have though, don't get excused, for not making wide open shots,losing their man constantly on D, failing to rebound or box out, or simply choking.

Some of them need to go too.

 

Continuity is overblown.Boston won 57 games last year and brought in two new starters.Dallas isn’t in the finals without bringing in two new starters at the trade deadline.Having the stars(which the Lakers have) and surrounding them with complimentary talent (which they don’t have) is what wins.

 

We’ll see soon enough as you like to say if we can’t land the home run upgrade for not TOO steep a price …. just how big the adjustments will be, trade, draft or otherwise. Don’t forget the “non” deep pocket repeaters tax be damned budget we have to work with and input from LeBron and AD plus the next coach. It’s all guesses and a bunch of noise until.

 

I remain convinced, that it doesn't have to be a super star trade. I would love Mitchell, but guys like Murray, Grant, Lauri etc, are not superstars. However they could turn this team, into a legit title contender.

Give me big Zach in the draft, and I'll even shut up, about the big man situation. There is more than one way to skin a cat.

 

I would be down with this. Everyone thinks it’s a copycat League. It doesn’t have to be.
For me, it’s about building a squad that has major advantages over the others.
I think with some serious development, Edy can be that guy. The problem remains: LeBron has maybe one or two seasons left where he can be this good on offense and the Lakers need someone to come in day one and make an impact.
I would revisit the Murray option and gamble on a player like Edy for the future. If we need that pick to get Murray, then so be it.
Also, many chose not to gamble on Kyrie, especially those like us who already had a guy who needs the ball in his hands, and look at how well that’s turned out.
Sometimes, you need to gamble in order to win.
Having the discernment to pick the right guy to gamble on is paramount for success.

 

I don't know if he will morph into Brook or Gasol, or not, but I'd take him. He has some tools that we can develop IMO. It's about time we invested in a young quality big man , I wholeheartedly agree with you on this one.

 

Rui and Spence must've not gotten the memo