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  1. abeer3

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    yeah, i'm obviously a huge AD fan, but no way is he going to be this good in three years, imo (his game won't age well because he's not a great shooter). i think when lebron retires, AD will quietly ask to be moved, and we'll get a limited return to a contender (but do right by AD).

    i'm ok with it. he brought us a ring, and i'm fine facilitating a move to help him get another one elsewhere.

    i'd also be fine if he wanted to just retire here, too, though. team-building would be harder, though. ultimately, i think it will be his call.
     
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    Meh...AD is 30 years old, and for all his injury history, he's never had an ACL or Achilles tear or anything. I think Anthony would be avg close to 30 ppg without Lebron.

    I'm still in favor of chasing the chip while we still can. There isn't this large degree of separation, between us and anybody else in the West currently, IMO.

    I think James has 2 solid seasons left, but we still need, to add another impact player this summer. The arms race never stops in the NBA. I'm against this, hold pat with Austin, Rui, Jarred ,Max etc stuff. That's not going to be enough..

    We are the Lakers, we chase stars, it's what we do, someone is out there dreaming of playing in Purple and Gold as we speak. We should stay aggressive in our pursuit of the chip, f*** rebuilding.
     
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    showtime24 - Lakers 6th Man -

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    I feel like AD takes too many mid range jump shots tbh. In the NBA in 2024, if bigs aren't being efficient at mid-rangers and threes, they should just score on the interior. A lot of those looks should go to the Dlos of the world for a more efficient shot, such as a 40% three.
     
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    Slick2021 - Lakers MVP -

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    AD is power forward, not a post up center, he was All NBA 3 times in New Orleans, shooting those midrange jumpers too. It's like folks forget, that AD was a monster in NO. That's why we wanted him, he's adjusted his game playing with Lebron.

    A little too much IMO
     
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    "AD is not a Center, he's a Power Forward."

    -Slick, after every lakers loss.
     
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    FrontOfJersey22 - Lakers All Star -

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    A “bridge player” bridges the gap between the current team and the next Chip Team. We aren’t the Detroit Pistons. Our FO is going to want someone on the court who fans will still pay to see.
     
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    He is..ask him. I guess you, and the internet, know better than he does.
     
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    Trae coming to a Crypto stadium near you!

    Weeeeeeeee
     
  9. karacha

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    In this modern NBA, AD is absolutely a center. You could play him some at the 4 if you had a center a la Marc Gasol (big, strong, but can stretch the floor). But in most situations AD is a prototypical modern center.
     
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    i think he wants to be a pf and had success at the position before every nba team started playing 4 three point shooters at a time. defensively, he can still play pf, but on offense it's hard to operate with AD at pf unless your center is a deep threat (this is why the marc gasol idea made sense to me and why letting lopez go continues to hurt badly).

    whether AD wants to or not, i think he needs to play the bulk of his minutes at center for his team to be successful. that said, we should have someone on the roster that we can trust to play 15-20mpg against the real behemoths around the league. because despite the curry-ization of the nba, most teams still employ and play at least one guy like that.

    edit: lol, karacha posted almost the same thing at the same time
     
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    No question, AD is a center. That is just how it is. I'm regards to the Lakers blowing it up as soon as this year, it may not be the best idea (if we plan to suck bad) because New Orleans has our 2025 1st. However, if we still want to compete a little, maybe it won't be the worst idea. AD is aging quick and is coming off a very good (and healthy season). This may be the off-season where we have to maximize the value of our asset. Another thing is, if AD is traded it doesn't necessarily mean we have to startbtabkinh asap with lebron also leaving. I think Lebron wouldn't mind trying to win with other players (whike staying in L.A), because the combo with AD is not working. Someone mentioned the Chet for picks idea. I would seriously consider that, buy get Lebrons opinion on it. I would like to get Jalen Williams though tbh. Lakers could still swing a star on the fly with AD simoutaneously going out in a deal. Just have to get a little creative. Also, the coach needs to go.
     
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  12. abeer3

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    AD's not going anywhere unless lebron goes, and i don't think the FO nor lebron wants lebron to go. so next year, lebron and AD will be here. that's the end of what we owe to NO for that trade, too, so it's a nice point at which to consider paths.

    i think we're going to chase trae young this summer, but we won't give up unprotected picks in the process. this will satisfy lebron/AD without totally killing the future. it might kill the present, though, lol. but lebron's done that before.
     
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    I don't think they want Lebron to go either. It would be poor asset management to the say the least. Can't go another year of mediocrity though. Good point about getting Trae for cheap. I guess that could be an option. Having Lebron play off ball more, and more easy lobs for AD is probably what they were going for with WB, only he couldn't shoot the ball. At least Trae could shoot. But i still dont know if that big three will work though. I really feel like the Lakers should push the reset button soon, but not at the sake of loosing Lebron. The coach will likely be gone too, which would also appease themm.
     
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    me neither, but that didn't stop the even worse fit that was the westbrook trade.
     
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    The thing is Trae's salary (and lack of defense) would make it virtually impossible to bring Dlo back. Wouldn't make sense roster wise and salary wise. This would be poor asset management. Unless for some reason Dlo is included in a opt-in or sign and trade, where it's only Dlo + Reaves or Rui + picks type of trade.
     
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    I bet the average Laker fan is getting board with the current team and them not winning. A few youngsters said that Dlo is the only one that makes the game exciting with him draining those threes. Kind of like Lakers need to get with the times both from a competitive, and modern play style/marketing standpoint. You could see just how impactful Dlo's shooting is when you see what their record is when he is on. Could be kind of what they are going for with Trae too, who has been heralded as kind of a Steph lite, even though their games are different in a lot of ways.
     
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    Trade 1: Hachimura, #19 to Chicago for Caruso and Carter

    Trade #2: Russell (opt in), Reaves, and Vincent for Trae Young
     
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    Gross. I just threw up in my mouth.
     
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    Best case: Dejounte Murray, Jerami Grant and whatever 250 lb big you can find (even if it's on draft night).

    You have to empty the clip for that.

    Question is can that get you another run at a 'ship?

    Also assuming you have a league average HC at the helm.
     
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    I feel extremely confident Trae would’ve scored a basket tonight. Lol
     
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