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  1. 432J

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    nuggets were missing jokic and murray and still beat the clippers because DAJ turned back the clock to 2013 and reggie jackson still hates westbrick with a passion
     
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    The Clippers just did the choke of all choke jobs. It was like Joffrey's wedding in games of thrones (trigger warning choking to death).



    Paul George with six points 0 from 4 and 2 from 13 overall. Russell Westbrook missing two vital free throws in the last minute, Harden on the ground with two Clippers time outs left deciding to chuck the ball lightly in the air to the opposition at the Nuggets goal rather than call a time out despite having the ball to himself.

    Despite my comment in chat today I was surprised that Deandre Jordan still had a job, he overcame hack a Jordan (the other other Jordan DeRules) and came up with 21 points, 13 rebounds 5 ASSISTS 2 steals and a block

    Reggie Jordan proved to be the magnificent bastard we all loved to dislike and used his Sith Lord hate powers to shake and dominate the whole Clipper team crowd, coach and Balmer. He made vital play after play, threes, offensive rebounds, hounding D and a coast to coast layup against extreme predjudice.
     
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    Beetlejuice was outstanding
     
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    So after every loss especially like yesterday we are going to read all these speculations
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    According to The Athletic insider Shams Charania, Chicago is expected to try to acquire Lakers guard Austin Reaves in any trade involving Zach LaVine.

    “I expect the Lakers to show interest in Zach LaVine . But he makes nearly $40 million, so the players' combined salaries would have to reach that amount if traded. The Lakers have D'Angelo Russell and Rui Hachimura but are not eligible to trade until mid-January, and I'm sure the Bulls will be asking for Austin Reaves in any potential Zach LaVine trade.

    If you are the Lakers and are trying to acquire a third star, be it Zach LaVine or whoever is available, the player teams will be asking about is Austin Reaves . 100 percent. So far, the Lakers have not been inclined to trade Austin Reaves. They refused to include him in the Kyrie Irving trade,” Charania said.
     
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    If we're trading for a star, which is a bad idea for roster construction purposes, they can have JHS. All teams want picks + at least a youth they can sell their fans on in these type of moves. BUT no Austin. Just no. Not unless one of the top 10 players are coming here and that's not happening.
     
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    If Reddish and Vanderbilt come back playing solid D, and if both are able to be decent on offense. We will have a log jam going on, with the perimeter players.

    Right now, if we run into a big that AD has to pay attention to, our perimeter guys are getting killed on the P&R with AD playing drop coverage. If you bring Anthony up to shut off the dribble penatration, the opposing big is going to hurt you in the mismatch.

    In theory, Reddish, Vanderbilt and eventually Vincent, gives us better on ball defense. It will get pretty interesting with the minutes being distributed. In the short term, Cam and Jarred can replace Prince and Max in the rotation. Looking down the road tho..we still have 55M tied up in D'Angelo, Austin, Rui and Gabe.

    Somebody in that group is likely to get moved IMO. Unless a catastrophe strikes with Lebron or AD.
     
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    I think we can all agree on that, yes.
     
  8. Slick2021

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    Austin is a good player, but he doesn't demand a top 10 player back in a trade. No. He's not even a top 30 player.

    He doesn't make a lot of money tho, so getting more bang for the buck, at his salary is difficult. That means that he probably won't get traded, but TBH..it depends on the player in question for me.
     
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    After the wildly unpopular Eagle debacle NO way they do the exact same thing again to an even better and more valuable all around young player on a fabulous deal for at least the next 3 years with his PO for the 4th or gets extended. IMO.
     
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    It wouldn't be the same thing..We could have kept Caruso if we wanted to..we had his Bird Rights..we were just being cheap.
    TBH I'd trade Austin for Caruso right now, if the Bulls gave me a pick too. Then move D'Angelo for Brogdon, I don't think folks would riot over that idea.
     
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    NO. :D
     
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    Your deal makes sense and doesn’t suck for the immediate season and next of course if there were any guaranty LeBron and AD could be injury free and at their peaks for the playoff runs to have a shot at the ring. Plus virtually every key player as they’d be needed as well to win all 4 series. Unlikely. AC is pushing 30 now while Reaves is still getting better each year and in his prime. And if all that health were to happen this season and next we’d have the same chances with him here and the other needed moves. Plus it’s my fandom for Austin as well. He’s a really special player, story and personality.
     
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    So is Caruso as a story, and he's an All NBA Defensive team player. The guy is 30 years old , he's in his prime right now.

    Come on LT.. Alex, Cam and Jarred on the perimeter? Backed up by AD in the paint? Man that's some elite caliber defense, against every team in the League.

    Like I said, IF the Bulls gave me a 1st rd pick too, I'd pull that trigger absolutely. Of course, my next course of action, would be to move that pick if necessary, along with D'Angelo and Gabe for another impact player.

    We're going to need Lebron and AD at their best as is, that's not going to change if would stood pat. Outside of those two, I'd consider any trade, depending on the player involved, if it strengthened our Championship chances.
     
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    BTW, white AR in similar fashion to the first time white AC surprised our home crowd …. nearly exploded the Crypt last night with a plenty of elevation break away “one handed” slam dunk. :eek: It got tipped some from behind but it was there and he still almost converted it. Also there was a foul called back up the floor on Philly as well. I think Austin must be capable of doing many of his dunks one handed but is practical and prefers the safety of the 2 hands vs the flash of one if he has the option. But HIM wanted to make a statement with that sucker!! Not saying he’s in AC’s class athletically. But I have posted screen grabs of him way the hell off the floor on one OR 2 feet leaps in action.

    :Noddingyes:
     
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    You're right, that's not the only reason I'm holding him out on those.

    I'm wildly out on the 3 star model, especially with the kind of star needed based on where Bron and AD are at in their careers. It has to be a durable two way player who can shoot and not get in the way of Bron or AD's lane. If they aren't a perfect fit, then they have to be so overwhelmingly great that it doesn't matter (Luka, Joker, Tatum) and for them, they can have anything not bolted down.

    The way you have to fill out a roster makes it tough to win. The only players worth the trouble are top 10 guys and we can't get those players right now. So with salary implications, roster construction, fit, required skill set, needed durability all in mind; I'm not willing to include Austin to get someone who won't be a top end difference maker.
     
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    Luka and Kyrie might be up for grabs
     
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    wait...are you admitting that letting caruso go was a massive mistake? feel like that's a big reversal.

    i'm out, too. brogdon's as bad defensively as dlo and more injury-prone. i do like his steady hand on offense, but i don't know if i could pull the trigger on that one.

    eagle/reaves is sophie's choice, though. i tend to go defense first, but i also think austin still has a bit more room to grow on both ends, whereas eagle is a finished (and awesome) product.

    so, i'm also a no.

    i'm out on three stars, too. i know what slick will say, but i feel like it keeps being tried and failing while two stars or even one superduperstar and the right cast is taking home the rings.

    in a trade for luka/jokic/tatum, there is nothing bolted down. not lebron, not AD, nothing. same way i felt about getting AD when we did: make it so, at any cost. high character, durable superstars are the way.

    i think short of that, we've constructed a pretty good roster. we've had some injuries and uneven/disappointing play, but the theory behind the roster makes perfect sense to me.
     
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    So he sells the team but gets to stay on as president of basketball operations, keeps some shares of the team and makes over $3b in the sale? Bought it for $285m. That's a hell of a deal.

    Wonder why the sudden change in his life? Saw he's also leaving Shark Tank after this year.
     
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