2023-24 Team Developments: Trades / Free Agents / News / Rumors / Ideas

Discussion in 'Lakers Discussion' started by TIME, May 23, 2023.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. 432J

    432J - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    6,833
    Likes Received:
    15,161
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    swider wasn't impressive at all. waiving him was the right move
     
    JSM and Cookie like this.
  2. PurpleAndGold88

    PurpleAndGold88 - Lakers 6th Man -

    Joined:
    May 31, 2023
    Messages:
    1,375
    Likes Received:
    3,106
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Fullerton,ca
    Offline
    F U BSPN !
     
    TIME likes this.
  3. TIME

    TIME Administrator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    5,800
    Likes Received:
    22,708
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Lifelong Lakers fan.
    Location:
    LaLa Land
    Offline
    I can see ranking us at 5 going in since it's not clear yet how the new pieces will mesh, but the Heat and Sixers? The Heat are going to lose half their team if they pull off the Dame trade, and the Sixers are losing Harden and even with him could not win anything in the playoffs.
     
  4. lakerjones

    lakerjones Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2014
    Messages:
    10,685
    Likes Received:
    31,798
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    La La land
    Online
    I don't mind that ranking. Lowers expectations just a touch but still has us at third in the West which might even be a little high? Really, I'd be glad to end up in the top 4 or 5 of the West.
     
  5. abeer3

    abeer3 - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    28,021
    Likes Received:
    75,611
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    yeah, again, our stars get hurt a lot, and that's not going away. i'll be surprised if we finish top-3 in the west, but i wouldn't be surprised by a title, either.
     
  6. KareemtheGreat33

    KareemtheGreat33 - Lakers MVP -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    11,715
    Likes Received:
    23,779
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Brow-beater
    Location:
    Las Islas Filipinas
    Offline
    Load management really doesn’t work but we almost had an epic run in the playoffs with (almost half a season) injury rested AD and Bron. Just like the last championship, there was a long rest for both guys.

    Something to ponder about going forward
     
    FrontOfJersey22, abeer3 and TIME like this.
  7. pika1708

    pika1708 - Lakers Starter -

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2020
    Messages:
    2,961
    Likes Received:
    5,259
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    I think we will be top 4. Denver will be up there. Phoenix depends on health. I don't see Memphis, Clips, Warriors, Mavs or Sac beating us.
    We have good depth that should keep us afloat as long as we don't have like 2+ month without AD/LeBron

    Reaves, Rui and Dlo should have a great year during regular season
     
  8. abeer3

    abeer3 - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    28,021
    Likes Received:
    75,611
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    sac's bringing back basically the whole squad from last year, so i don't expect them to drop off much.

    memphis with ja out is a wild card. i mean, they've done pretty well without him in the past, and they added smart (and lost brooks, which they seemed fine about).

    the mavs are another one for whom it's anyone's guess, imo. it didn't come together at all last year, but it's hard to bet on luka missing the playoffs twice in a row, and he dragged a less talented team to the conference finals the year prior.

    i don't see why everyone jumped off the clips bandwagon, tbh. for the past few years, they've been picked to finish atop the west by most experts, and it's not like they got worse. they just keep getting injured. they might again, but you could say that for 80% of contending teams (that they have players likely to get hurt that are very important).

    so, i'd put denver, phx, and the clippers ahead of us in terms of projected regular season record, and us with sac and memphis and maybe dallas in the next likely grouping.

    curious to see how NO, okc, and houston do this year. will NO regain some of the momentum they lost in the middle of last year? has okc plateau-ed? will having adults in the room and an actual interest in winning be enough for houston? (my guesses are no, yes, no, but we'll see).
     
  9. ElginTheGreat

    ElginTheGreat - Lakers MVP -

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2014
    Messages:
    10,895
    Likes Received:
    30,253
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    5th in the West just sounds about right to me. I can see us getting to 3rd or 4th if things go well and we catch some breaks on injuries. I think we are built to withstand periods of playing with just AD or just LeBron and there are real question marks with the other teams outside of the Nuggets and Kings.
     
    TIME, lakerjones and abeer3 like this.
  10. Pioneer10

    Pioneer10 - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2019
    Messages:
    4,951
    Likes Received:
    13,437
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    I'm fully on board the Christian Wood train: would be willing even to promise a starting job for the first month of the season to get it done. Roster looks really really good but they have a gaping hole at big and I think having a guy with that sort of length who is a good rebounder who can stretch the floor really opens up AD both on defense and offense that we haven't had since the Bubble year.
     
  11. JSM

    JSM - Lakers Legend -

    Top Poster Of Month

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    17,990
    Likes Received:
    69,729
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline

    On the Kam bros' pod Woike said he spoke to two league scouts regarding Wood and asked them to rank him from 1-100. One scout said "about an 8." The other team scout asked how low he could go, Woike said "one" and the scout said that's not low enough.
     
    Last edited: Jul 27, 2023
  12. sirronstuff

    sirronstuff - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    31,617
    Likes Received:
    76,907
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Your time is running out Ham
    Location:
    Laker Purgatory
    Offline
    That’s super bad. Barely a warm body bad. Sounds like there are some juicy stories behind this.
     
  13. LTLakerFan

    LTLakerFan - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    36,411
    Likes Received:
    60,590
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    So Cal
    Offline
    jeezus ..... and that's when he's been paid pretty well, like Westbrook up until now (very well). am thinking HAS to have a lot to do with attitude, which "Shirley" isn't going to get better if having to agree to vet minimum. Counter point of course "contract/career year" ..... but was the same for Russ this past season and on two different teams and didn't work out for him.
     
  14. 52years

    52years - Rookie -

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2023
    Messages:
    458
    Likes Received:
    482
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Offline
    What did the Buss boys rank him? That’s the only thing that really matters right.Why didn’t Woike ask them?
     
  15. 432J

    432J - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    6,833
    Likes Received:
    15,161
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    i mean, there's a reason why wood has bounced around from losing team to losing team despite what he's shown on the court.....

    and that's aside from the fact that he can't defend and has zero bball IQ
     
  16. lakerjones

    lakerjones Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2014
    Messages:
    10,685
    Likes Received:
    31,798
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    La La land
    Online
    I think Wood has value as an AD replacement offensively if AD gets hurt, sort of a better Thomas Bryant. I feel like he could also eat up some regular season minutes to rest AD more as well. If he’ll come for vet min of course.
     
  17. Weezy

    Weezy Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    18,571
    Likes Received:
    75,402
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Anaheim
    Offline
    This for me. We’re talking about the minimum, pretty much no available is better for the minimum. I like the Thomas Bryant comparison, sure he might not be the same type of cheerleader bench guy, but he cannot be worse on defense, it has to be literally impossible, and on offense he can score. You will not get a great 2 way player on the minimum, you get one or the other, good at scoring or good at defense MAYBE, or you get someone average at both if you’re lucky. Our options are extremely limited at this point, and while I’d take Biyombo ahead of him, I’d be more than fine with Wood.
     
    karacha, TIME and lakerjones like this.
  18. lakerjones

    lakerjones Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2014
    Messages:
    10,685
    Likes Received:
    31,798
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    La La land
    Online
    Same for me Weezy, I probably put Biyombo over him for the D he can provide especially in the playoffs, but Wood works for a guy to eat up minutes and score in the regular season just fine. Either one for the minimum is great.
     
    TIME likes this.
  19. Barnstable

    Barnstable Supreme Fuzzler of Lakersball.com Staff Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2014
    Messages:
    7,269
    Likes Received:
    18,611
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Los Angeles
    Offline
    I’d rather give Castleton those minutes if defense isn’t a requirement. At least it’s reps for a player I want to develop for the future.

    I know it’s been debated to death on here, but IMO Woods can’t put up those numbers and have no one want him unless he’s a locker room poison, cancerous presence on a team.
     
  20. Weezy

    Weezy Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    18,571
    Likes Received:
    75,402
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Anaheim
    Offline
    I don’t think Castleton is ready for the league yet, he’s a foul machine still and I think a lot of shots he takes will get blocked easier in the league. I think he needs a year of G-League time with occasional NBA minutes thrown in. Wood can be plugged in and be useful now, having a guy on the minimum that has put up 17-20 ppg and 7-10 rpg the last few years on a minimum deal is something I’d be willing to risk. It is a risk, but I do think at the same time if you have a locker room led by LeBron and AD, less nonsense is going to he put up with, and if it doesn’t work out he’s easily waived. Plus playing on a minimum “prove it” contract he’d probably have to be on his best behavior to try to get back to being paid higher next season. Just my take is all, I’m not going to be upset if he doesn’t sign here, all that would mean is he wasn’t willing to bet on himself to try and prove it.
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page