2023-24 Team Developments: Trades / Free Agents / News / Rumors / Ideas

Discussion in 'Lakers Discussion' started by TIME, May 23, 2023.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. TIME

    TIME Administrator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    5,787
    Likes Received:
    22,651
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Lifelong Lakers fan.
    Location:
    LaLa Land
    Offline
    We'll see I guess. I already saw a report a couple of hours after I posted this that the Heat have already offered Herro / Robinson / Draft picks. Pretty much what I suggested minus Jovic. I think Dame is still worth it. He had his best season ever this year. He is still in the latter end of his prime at 32. He is one of the two best shooters in the league, and is a stone cold killer. If the Heat can make Dame / Butler / Bam happen that's pretty lethal.
     
    JohnnyComeLately2k6 likes this.
  2. Helljumper

    Helljumper - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    4,933
    Likes Received:
    14,677
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Student
    Location:
    Los Angeles
    Offline
    Ooh, hadn’t considered the idea of S&Ting Beasley. That would probably be the ideal scenario if you can trade him for a big man who makes around $5-7M

    Balances the roster out while maintaining another trade chip
     
  3. svtzr

    svtzr - Lakers Starter -

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2016
    Messages:
    2,668
    Likes Received:
    7,130
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    I'm not saying Dame isn't worth it, I just think he has built up so much cache with that franchise that they won't burn him on the way out asking for millions of draft picks. Whether it's Lowry or Herro is probably a fair point and one I don't think Miami will worry about too much, it'll be Lowry and an extra first or Herro without that extra first.
     
    JohnnyComeLately2k6, abeer3 and TIME like this.
  4. SmoothOperator

    SmoothOperator - Lakers 6th Man -

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2014
    Messages:
    1,050
    Likes Received:
    2,322
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    With Dame to Miami in the works, it could have helped with a trade if this was decided a day earlier.
    Portland could have worked a S&T including Max Strus.

    A package of Herro/Strus/Martin and draft picks would be better than whatever Portland ends up with now.
     
    FrontOfJersey22 likes this.
  5. 432J

    432J - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    6,791
    Likes Received:
    15,043
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    minus bringing in vincent and reddish, really love what the FO has done so far
     
  6. Helljumper

    Helljumper - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    4,933
    Likes Received:
    14,677
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Student
    Location:
    Los Angeles
    Offline
    I don’t think we have Bamba’s bird rights actually since we waived him.

    Beasley’s situation is different because we didn’t actually waive him, just didn’t pick up his team option. So we still have his bird rights.
     
    abeer3 likes this.
  7. svtzr

    svtzr - Lakers Starter -

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2016
    Messages:
    2,668
    Likes Received:
    7,130
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Great pickup, that's spot on. We can bring back Beasley or Lonnie. There's an intriguing backup SG spot that could be available if one of them comes back, it would be a fight against Max Christie.

    I also wouldn't mind a S&T for another big with Beasley.
     
    LTLakerFan, abeer3 and Helljumper like this.
  8. svtzr

    svtzr - Lakers Starter -

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2016
    Messages:
    2,668
    Likes Received:
    7,130
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    I think Vincent was Toronto's second option after FVV for that money. So if we couldn't get Vincent, I imagine we would have probably retained Dennis. To me they're similar level players, DS is a slightly better defender and driver of the ball, Vincent is bigger and a better shooter.
     
  9. Kenzo

    Kenzo - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    7,576
    Likes Received:
    15,902
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Poland
    Offline
    I feel bad for Charlotte (and some other small/crappy teams). You're basicly in a lose/lose situation.
     
    Last edited: Jul 1, 2023
    LTLakerFan and abeer3 like this.
  10. Slick2021

    Slick2021 - Lakers MVP -

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2021
    Messages:
    8,284
    Likes Received:
    7,079
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline

    What's our hardcap number for using the MLE on Vincent? If we can go all the way to 172M, We could still possibly S&T Beasley or Lonnie, for say Christian Wood correct?
     
    LTLakerFan and abeer3 like this.
  11. Khmrp

    Khmrp - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2016
    Messages:
    12,052
    Likes Received:
    13,802
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    denis n gabe both shot 33% from 3s last season n gabe only shot 37% once in his career same as denis
     
    abeer3 likes this.
  12. VincePT

    VincePT - Rookie -

    Joined:
    Oct 29, 2020
    Messages:
    998
    Likes Received:
    1,958
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Location:
    San Diego
    Offline
    cant see this happening, but if it happens we'll be right in the top tier of championship favorites.
     
  13. Helljumper

    Helljumper - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    4,933
    Likes Received:
    14,677
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Student
    Location:
    Los Angeles
    Offline
    I am actually very curious how that situation played out.

    I almost wonder if we COULD have actually retained Dennis for cheaper. Like if we hadn’t signed Vincent, then once FVV made his decision, Toronto likely would have thrown their full MLE at Vincent. At that point, I’m not sure how many other teams would have needed a PG enough to throw the full MLE at Dennis.

    So in a way, by beating Toronto to their first choice and increasing their desperation, we ended up helping Dennis get a bigger payday.
     
    Khmrp and abeer3 like this.
  14. Kobe Bryant 8

    Kobe Bryant 8 - Lakers 6th Man -

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2016
    Messages:
    1,902
    Likes Received:
    5,115
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Hating the C Bags
    Offline
  15. svtzr

    svtzr - Lakers Starter -

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2016
    Messages:
    2,668
    Likes Received:
    7,130
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    It’s 172.3m. We’re playing with about 8.5m left to that figure.
     
  16. VincePT

    VincePT - Rookie -

    Joined:
    Oct 29, 2020
    Messages:
    998
    Likes Received:
    1,958
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Location:
    San Diego
    Offline
    I'm a Dennis fan, but he really struggled in the Playoffs offensively due to lack of size and poor shooting. I think our playoff chances increase slightly with Vincent if he keeps up the level next year.
     
  17. Slick2021

    Slick2021 - Lakers MVP -

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2021
    Messages:
    8,284
    Likes Received:
    7,079
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Hey..8M is a good fall back for Wood if he doesn't get a better offer in Free Agency. I'm not sure about the Mavericks cap situation though.
     
    abeer3 likes this.
  18. pika1708

    pika1708 - Lakers Starter -

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2020
    Messages:
    2,796
    Likes Received:
    4,896
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Last time I checked, you can't add players to S&T
    It's 24h after the offer sheet is signed, so July 6. Meaning the team making the offer couldn't make other deals with that money until then

    On Beasley S&T, for McGee and a second?
     
    LTLakerFan and FrontOfJersey22 like this.
  19. Slick2021

    Slick2021 - Lakers MVP -

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2021
    Messages:
    8,284
    Likes Received:
    7,079
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    8.5M.That's a nice piece of change, theoretically, we could throw in Maxwell Lewis and get it up to 10M.
     
  20. Kobe Bryant 8

    Kobe Bryant 8 - Lakers 6th Man -

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2016
    Messages:
    1,902
    Likes Received:
    5,115
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Hating the C Bags
    Offline
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page