2022-23 Team Developments: News / Trades / Free Agents / Rumors

Discussion in 'Lakers Discussion' started by BangBoomPow, Jun 3, 2021.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
Page 1149 of 1279
  1. VincePT

    VincePT - Lakers 6th Man -

    Joined:
    Oct 29, 2020
    Messages:
    1,006
    Likes Received:
    1,977
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    San Diego
    Offline
    we get DLo's bird rights if we do this trade correct?
     
    VincePT, Feb 8, 2023
    #22961
  2. KobeKing4208

    KobeKing4208 - Rookie -

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2022
    Messages:
    254
    Likes Received:
    418
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Offline
    Yes. It is about the best deal we could make and if we were able to spin at least Beverley for another 3 and D, even if it is a young project
     
    KobeKing4208, Feb 8, 2023
    #22962
  3. LakerFanIam

    LakerFanIam - Lakers 6th Man -

    Joined:
    Oct 8, 2014
    Messages:
    1,777
    Likes Received:
    5,177
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Not that excited about this proposed DLO trade. Especially if we're giving up picks in the deal as well.
    Also, DLO is on an expiring deal as well. Not sure this would move the needle much for us, to be honest.
     
    LakerFanIam, Feb 8, 2023
    #22963
    lakerjones and Weezy like this.
  4. TIME

    TIME Administrator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    5,799
    Likes Received:
    22,702
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Lifelong Lakers fan.
    Location:
    LaLa Land
    Offline
    Two thoughts on a potential DLo trade:

    It would motivate @trodgers to hang out on site more. :Westbrook Come Here2:

    I would need @D-Fish Man to finally spill the beans on DLo. :ADeyesonyouleft:
     
    TIME, Feb 8, 2023
    #22964
    trodgers, sirronstuff, 432J and 3 others like this.
  5. svtzr

    svtzr - Lakers Starter -

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2016
    Messages:
    2,668
    Likes Received:
    7,130
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    I don’t think we need depth. I don’t know why everyone wants that. We’ve already got guys that we can’t fit into the rotation. This to me is our depth pieces outside of AD and Lebron:

    Schroeder / Russ
    Bev / Walker / Reaves / Christie
    Rui / Troy Brown Jr
    Gabriel
    Bryant

    Any of those guys could play off the bench as depth. What we need is clear starters that tangibly improve the team. That’s why I’ve wanted OG for so long, guy can shoot but more importantly he is an elite defender. Then you’ve got your SF, PF and C starters sorted in OG / Lebron / AD. And it doesn’t matter that we have a bunch of average guards, because we just play the the guys who are hot.

    Instead we’re going to trade one bench guard for 2 more. And give up picks to do it, like that makes any great sense.
     
    svtzr, Feb 8, 2023
    #22965
  6. fabfourlakers

    fabfourlakers - Lakers Starter -

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2014
    Messages:
    3,572
    Likes Received:
    8,137
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    What. We're trading literally the WORST guard in the LEAGUE in Russ for a starting PG who would start on pretty much every team in th eleague in D-LO, and a guy in Beasley who can actually shoot, and a wing defender in Vanderbilt which is what this team has actually been missing the entire year?

    This trade improves our roster by A LOT and best part is, if it's for just one pick, we still have the other pick to use to upgrade the roster via Bev/Walker deal. Imagine we get Bogdanovic too?
     
    fabfourlakers, Feb 8, 2023
    #22966
    shadycat11 likes this.
  7. fabfourlakers

    fabfourlakers - Lakers Starter -

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2014
    Messages:
    3,572
    Likes Received:
    8,137
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    We need to be looking at NEXT year more than anything. This year is probably a wash regardless of moves...but I think next year we can actually make some noise if we make the right moves right now.
     
    fabfourlakers, Feb 8, 2023
    #22967
  8. wallangong

    wallangong - Lakers 6th Man -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    1,607
    Likes Received:
    4,870
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Most of the "depth" you listed wouldn't be playing meaningful minutes on good teams.
     
    wallangong, Feb 8, 2023
    #22968
  9. Weezy

    Weezy Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    18,559
    Likes Received:
    75,346
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Anaheim
    Offline
    Man… if Irwin thinks it’s a good deal and would have to apologize to the FO… maybe I should wait and see

     
    Weezy, Feb 8, 2023
    #22969
    alam1108, TIME, JSM and 3 others like this.
  10. KobeKing4208

    KobeKing4208 - Rookie -

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2022
    Messages:
    254
    Likes Received:
    418
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Offline
    Plus, if in fact someone gets in Ham's ear and PatBev is moved down the rotation (or better yet traded for another 3 and D)....not only would it be a huge size improvement with the two 6'4 guards and 6'9 Vandy (and then putting 6'5 Reaves back into the rotation) but you would be replacing a 35-year and 34-year old (as well as moving down an almost 30-year old) for a 26 and 27 year old. plus Austin who is 24.

    Also adding Vandy, who isn't even 24 yet.

    So, size and youth (while also adding Rui (who turned 25 today btw) would be a HUGE thing for us.....and if ever a game showed our age, it was last night against OKC
     
    KobeKing4208, Feb 8, 2023
    #22970
    TIME likes this.
  11. karacha

    karacha Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    8,620
    Likes Received:
    27,949
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    DLO is a starter and a great long-range shooter. That alone improves our depth to

    DLO/Dennis, which is really solid.
    Beasley is a guy who can start, play good, versatile defense with those long arms and shoot. He'll even shoot high volume, up to 10 threes if you give him a green light and likely hit 38% of those. He's even shot better several times in his career.
    And Vanderbilt is a big who focuses on defense and can give you a solid 8/8 without too much trouble.

    Those pieces, just like Rui, actually fit better together. Our current depth just isn't that great, unfortunately, and most of them will leave anyway. This builds better for the future IMO. Look:

    DLO/Dennis, that's respecatble.
    Vanderbilt/Reaves/Max
    Bron or Rui/Brown? Someone else?
    Rui or Bron/Vanderbilt/Gabriel?
    AD/Bryant? Someone else?

    There's actually legit shooting, size, and more versatile defense there. It's a start.
     
    karacha, Feb 8, 2023
    #22971
    alam1108, Pioneer10, TIME and 1 other person like this.
  12. svtzr

    svtzr - Lakers Starter -

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2016
    Messages:
    2,668
    Likes Received:
    7,130
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    It doesn’t change the fact that we already have 10 players who can be part of a rotation.

    Not sure if anyone has noticed we are scoring fine, we can’t get any stops. Dlo and Beasley aren’t helping you with that.

    And if you’re trading both picks, it’s not too far off a disaster.
     
    svtzr, Feb 8, 2023
    #22972
  13. ElginTheGreat

    ElginTheGreat - Lakers MVP -

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2014
    Messages:
    10,891
    Likes Received:
    30,243
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline

    Definitely a good sign. Lol
     
    ElginTheGreat, Feb 8, 2023
    #22973
  14. svtzr

    svtzr - Lakers Starter -

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2016
    Messages:
    2,668
    Likes Received:
    7,130
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Dlo is a so so player. I’m not convinced he’ll start either with Schroeder and Ham’s relationship.

    Beasley isn’t a defender. He will shoot it for sure, but he’ll probably bump Reaves out of the rotation who I think is a better player. Bev is a coach’s favourite.

    As for Vanderbilt, he is good role player, but he isn’t that much better than Gabriel.

    If it’s a single pick, I can see some of the point but it’s still a sideways move imo. At two picks this would be a bad move.
     
    svtzr, Feb 8, 2023
    #22974
  15. LTLakerFan

    LTLakerFan - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    36,399
    Likes Received:
    60,563
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    So Cal
    Offline
    People going to be mad? Doubt it's over DLO, Beasley and Vanderbuilt. KD for AD??
     
    LTLakerFan, Feb 8, 2023
    #22975
  16. NickthaQuick

    NickthaQuick - Lakers 6th Man -

    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2021
    Messages:
    1,606
    Likes Received:
    4,309
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Russell/Schroder
    Beasley/Reaves/Christie
    Lebron/Vanderbilt/Brown Jr
    Rui/Vanderbilt/JTA
    AD/Bryant

    I can see Bev and Walker going out after to trim some of the fat.
     
    NickthaQuick, Feb 8, 2023
    #22976
    LTLakerFan likes this.
  17. D-Fish Man

    D-Fish Man - Lakers 6th Man -

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2014
    Messages:
    1,690
    Likes Received:
    5,765
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Los Angeles, CA
    Offline
    Not good!
     
    D-Fish Man, Feb 8, 2023
    #22977
    lakerjones and trodgers like this.
  18. LTLakerFan

    LTLakerFan - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    36,399
    Likes Received:
    60,563
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    So Cal
    Offline
    You can't be status quo still with keeping Russ past this deadline? You just can't??
     
    LTLakerFan, Feb 8, 2023
    #22978
    ElginTheGreat likes this.
  19. karacha

    karacha Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    8,620
    Likes Received:
    27,949
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    I'll agree with you there. Maybe if the 2nd pick is heavily protected... we'll see. 1 pick -- I say we pull the trigger there. I'll disagree with you on DLO slightly, I mean he's not a star, but he's a starter in this league and can really shoot. Beasley... OK, he doesn't have the reputation of a defender, but he is strong with long arms and as you said, he will shoot it. I mean, I respect your opinion here, we can disagree here and there, but you make solid points for sure.
     
    karacha, Feb 8, 2023
    #22979
  20. Helljumper

    Helljumper - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    4,933
    Likes Received:
    14,677
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Student
    Location:
    Los Angeles
    Offline
    Well if the trade only involved 1 FRP, I’m pretty sure non-Laker fans would melt down at that.

    So many fans of other teams have been holding on to the idea that the Lakers would need to give up 1 FRP to dump Russ and another FRP to get back any rotation players.
     
    Helljumper, Feb 8, 2023
    #22980
    LTLakerFan likes this.
Page 1149 of 1279
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page