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  1. lakerjones

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    Reassessment time for me now heading to the trade deadline. I love where we are headed with AD returning and hopefully Reaves and Walker coming back soon as well. We managed to play .500 plus ball with AD out which I never dreamed we could have done. That says a lot about Ham and our players' competitiveness. Great to see.

    I really like the addition of Rui, now we have some serious size at the wing/forward with him here, and some added scoring punch and rebounding. Doesn't solve the wing D issue completely but it's nice to at least have some size as opposed to guys just shooting over our 6 foot three point guards playing out of position.

    I'm no longer chomping at the bit for a Bogdanovich trade. I'd love to have him but not for an unprotected first any more. He wouldn't be redundant with Rui here as his main value is three point shooting which we still need. But a first should be protected. Same for me with Gary Trent. No way I do an unprotected first. But he'd be great here no doubt - maybe a top 10 protected first. I'd go after Hield if he could be gotten for 2nds. We just need one more good solid role player here IMO. He doesn't need to be a jack of all trades type. Could be one skill - three point sniper, lock down wing/guard defender. Just one more trade at the deadline should do it since we have our guys coming back and added Rui to the roster.
     
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    I would LOVE this move! This is the one superstar trade I would go for with Russ and the picks. I did not think this would be possible however. Great to hear it thrown out there!! This would be a total coup.
     
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    I listened to that podcast, this is not at all what they said lol. Lowe speculated about the Lakers offering Russ and both picks for Lavine. Marks said he would do it if he were the Bulls, and Lowe said it was close and he didn't think the Bulls would do it.
     
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    would be tough for bulls to sell to their fans. really any midseason give-up trade would be. now in the summer...i could see them making moves.
     
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    Yep. And they even said that it was no report nor had any inside info. It was literally their opinion and people take that and create this kind of report. Ridiculous
     
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    Lavine scares the s*** out of me: balky knee and his basketball decision making tends to be in the Westbrook wtf are you shooting that shot category way too much

    A guy like Beal while also injury prone doesn't have joint issues and isn't in love with taking dumb pullup mid range jumpers early in the shot clock
     
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    The injury concern for me is real but I love Lavine’s game and think he’d be a great fit here. He is the one superstar I would go after with the picks if it were possible. I got excited by that post but it’s clearly just a speculation. Wish it were true though.
     
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    i've never been a big lavine fan. i'm ok with not getting him.
     
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    I want to watch these kids develop as well. If any of them get traded, except for Walker), I will be pissed. I would like to keep Lonnie, but I’m pretty sure he will get better offers than the paltry amount we can afford this summer.
     
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    dang they already photoshopped jerseys and everything

    Isn't Zach expiring too, or has one year? I get he wants to be here, but that's quite a bit to give up as well. Total tax relief for them and 1 FRP's?
     
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    This will probably be unpopular, but I don't think I want Bryant back next year barring him signing for extremely cheap. Take a look at this comparison:

    Bryant this season (Age 25): 12.8 ppg and 7.2 rbg in 22.3 minutes, 20.7 ppg and 11.6 rbg per 36 minutes, .675 eFG%, 21.7 PER, .204 WS/48, 1.6 BPM, 0.7 VORP

    Montrezl Harrell in 2021 (Age 27): 13.5 ppg and 6.2 rbg in 22.9 minutes, 21.2 ppg and 9.8 rbg per 36 minutes, .622 eFG%, 22.7 PER, .221 WS/48, 3.0 BPM, 2.0 VORP

    Bryant is basically giving us the same production we got from Montrezl in 2021, and no one was really clamoring to resign Montrezl the following summer. They're both offensive backup centers that provide little to no rim protection. Bryant, like Montrezl, is useful in a role, but I'm not sure the offensive backup center is a role worthy of investment with our MLE. The MLE is one of our few tools to bring in/keep a quality player in the summer, so the question is if we want to use it on a player that fits well around AD or one that can step in for AD at a passable level. Even if we're not bringing in someone new, Dennis and Lonnie might each be a higher priority to bring back with the MLE.
     
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    I agree with you. With AD healthy and the addition of Rui, Bryant will lose a lot of his minutes. His value is being able to fill in for AD when he's hurt. I doubt those two share the floor together much if at all.
     
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    We should never sign a player with the last name Bryant ever again.
     
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    Nope. LaVine has +180M left in his contract, 4 years after this season if I'm correct.

    I like to watch him but have reservations on being able to win. Injury issues are definitely a big problem with him too.
    Agree that he fit LeBron/AD really well and also the post-Lebron era. As with Beal, I think he's also not good enough to carry us after.

    If there was any way to get him this year, meaning with the limited assets we have, it's definitely something to give a hard thought on.
    It's a good comp and your rationale make sense.
    Personally, I think in order to be successful moving forward with AD, we need to pay around 8-10mil for a replacement. Consider it as AD would have a +10mil in his own contract.
    With that in mind, we need to try to keep TB or get someone else as cheap as possible. I think a multi-year deal in the 5-7mil range would be good for TB, not sure if he gets more in the market. He should also end the season in less bloated numbers and the hype shouldn't be much in the offseason
     
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    We can resign Lonnie to 120% of his current range - so it’s like he gets the MLE again. And I’d probably use the actual MLE on Schroeder, he is a nice piece and a competitor. I wouldn’t mind giving Bryant the BAE if he wants to stay, but I wouldn’t be fussed if he wants to go.

    I do think we need to trade one of Bev or Lonnie alongside Jones for another 3pt shooting wing. I’d be open to it being Lonnie since I think Bev actually has value off court in his attitude and kn court in his improving shooting and guard defence still.

    Although I’d be more than happy to trade him too.
     
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    Big difference is Bryant is a legit 3 point threat. If Trezz isn't in the PnR or getting boards not that helpful, Bryant you can figure out ways on offense to counter a lot of defenses.
     
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    i suggested splitting the full MLE between schroder and bryant, each getting two years and player options on the 2nd. you gain early bird on both, which opens up good options for everyone the following year, pretty much regardless of results/performance.

    but again, just so much season left. maybe we hate everyone at the end. maybe schroder plays himself out of even the full MLE (doubtful, but stranger things have definitely happened).

    i still believe that walker can be had on the 120% if he's still here after the TDL, though. i like him, but his warts are real, and teams can see them. nobody wants to use more than the mini-mle on that, so we have the upper hand, imo.
     
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    He’s shooting a good percentage from three, but on only 1.3 attempts per game. That’s not enough volume for defenses to adjust their coverages when they’re actually gameplanning for us (i.e, in the postseason). In a playoff game they’ll dare him to take ten threes. I’d like to see some AD and Bryant together minutes, Ham should force him to take 5 a game just to see if it’s real.
     
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    I agree. His knee is a concern, but it is not like he relies solely on his athleticism. He has quietly become one of the best three-point shooters in the league. I would trade for him too.
     
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    I think the targets are Hield and Trent. Pincus also mentioned Rozier, so don't forget him. However he didn't mention current interest, but he brought up the fact the Lakers already tried to trade for him. So there is likely still interest there. I wouldn't be surprised if we got a whole new back court, such as Rozier/Hield or Rozier/Trent or Conley/Beasley or Rozier/Burks or some variation. I also wouldn't be surprised if we added one high-priced guard, such as LaVine.
     
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