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    That would be nice. But, I'm not sure the Lakers want to go that much over the luxury tax. If they signed Reaves to a deal starting at 12m, Washington to a deal starting at 15m, and a player with the tax payer MLE for 5.7m, to go along with the first round pick salary of 2-3 million, and we are looking at a payroll of about 183 million.
     
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    That’s a really good point, I sometimes forget that the Lakers don’t want to/can’t really operate at that level, we aren’t owned by a billionaire. In that case I’d be trying to get Rozier and Plumlee or Washington from them for pieces other than Russ. Beverly, Walker and Nunn work for Rozier and Plumlee or Rozier and Washington, I dunno.
     
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    Luckily the NBA is favoring the rich and really raising the lux tax to a generous 162 million next season (thank god).

    For the record, 183 million is 21 million over the lux tax, which with the repeater hit is an additional 60 million tax hit so, 243 million salary. Not nearly as bad had it been in previous years when the lux tax line was much lower.
     
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    I like this deal the best, but if we're taking Hayward I'd be absolutely adamant about no picks involved from our side unless it's a second rounder.
     
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    Y'all see roziers game last nite 7-13 53% from 3pt fg and 11-25 44% overall na man that's 2 many shots for him 4 stls 5 assts. 3 rebs 34pts
     
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    i think the game would come much easier for rozier here than it does for him in charlotte. he's poised to have a late career like jason terry, imo.

    our issue is that a) russ has actually played well since moving to the bench and getting acclimated to that, and b) ham likes schroder as the starting pg.

    so would we end up in a situation where rozier is another expensive bench player, or worse, we're still starting two small guys in the backcourt?

    i'd still make the move if all it cost was bev/nunn, but i can see why the FO might not.
     
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    Seeing this way too often, and it’s getting frustrating to the point where I’m warming up to the idea of even overpaying for someone like Bogdanovic

    So many of our plays actually involve some great movement and passing, get the crowd oohing and aahing as the ball swings to a wide open three point shooter… only for the shooter to hesitate or pass up the three due to lack of confidence. They keep swinging the ball around the perimeter as the initial advantage from the play progressively declines, ends up resulting in a worse shooter having to force up a worse shot or even the play entirely resetting and someone having to try to create their own shot from scratch.

    Really think even having one elite shooter out there (I like Reaves and Walker, but they’re a bit streaky) would do wonders for this team
     
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    How many times am I going to write this: we need a confident, high-volume outside shooter. Like, just one guy who can do this would significantly improve the team.
     
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    Yeah. No question we could use a shooter. Even our coach has said it multiple times.
     
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    I wouldn't pay Reaves 12 million or Washington 15 million either. I don't think either one of those guys get that kind of cash in free agency.
     
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    yeah, i don't think reaves is going to get 12 million per from anyone. i'll be very surprised if anyone gets near 10 per, tbh. he'll get a caruso-type deal, maybe a bit less.
     
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    It's hard to say, another high volume jump shooter, is absolutely not getting the same kind of high volume looks, on a team with Lebron and AD. I'd look at a guy that is efficient on fewer shots. The idea of adding more 3pt shooting, has some merit though, but then again we won a chip with the 21st ranked 3pt shooting team in the league.

    Austin and Lonnie are the two best 3pt shooters on the team. It looks like more of an issue with those two out. The other concern for me, is that Lebron is still going to take the majority of our 3 pt shots anyway, now we go out and add another guy that needs to get up a lot of 3's to be effective. I'm not sure that's going to work out like people think. Lebron is shooting a career low from deep this season.
     
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    Absolutely agree. I’ve been wanting to add Bogdanovic since the summer. I still think he’d be the perfect fit next to Lebron AD and Russ as well. You just can’t leave him open. Ham has asked for a shooter just this past week. I know he doesn’t play a ton of D but he’s got size to at least bother people. We also have a capable bench wing in Brown who can help on D in certain matchups. It just makes sense to move the glut of guards on the team for a sniping three point wing. Again, you could even get Reddish too in a second deal.

    Bottom line, adding Bogs and subtracting Beverly and Nunn (and maybe adding Reddish, subtracting Jones and JTA as well) balances the roster. The lineups could be Schroder, Reaves, Bojan, Lebron and AD with a bench of Russ, Walker, Brown/Reddish, Gabriel and Bryant. That’s simply rock solid. I’d love to go to war in the West with that. All it costs is one FRP. Keep the other for the future.
     
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    I like Bogdanovic over Rozier all day. He's more efficient from 3 on less shots and he can score without the 3. He can also be had for less due to his age IMO.
     
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    We make 10.4 threes per game, that is dead last in the NBA. The idea that Walker and Reaves will fix that is… yeah ok. Also, LeBron takes a lot of threes because he’s older and it’s easier yes, but to me it also appears to be because he’d rather take them than pass to some of the guys we have now. You give him a shooter like Bogdanovic, he’s going to feed that guy all day, just like he has in the past with other shooters he’s had. Not adding shooting to this team would be silly.
     
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    That’s it. We are 30th in volume of shooting threes and 27th in percentage. That flat out sucks. With one guy in Bogs who’s near the top of the league in that department you take so much pressure off the rest of our players. It would be such a great addition. And you don’t have to gut the team or reset mid season. Just move the little dudes who are expiring and have been upping their trade value. And then Ham can’t trot out anymore 4 PG lineups either!!
     
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    So what? We won a chip with 11 threes made per game. Every team we beat in the playoffs shot better from 3 that year too. It is not the big deal you keep making it out to be. We already proved that on the court.
     
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    I have no problem with dumping Bev and Nunn for Bogdanovic or Walker. I still don't believe that the 3 is some magic potion or something. However Bogdanovic actually scores most of his points from 2. I like that part better, he's simply a scorer that can hit the 3 at a high clip.
     
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    We had better defenders though. Green and KCP are solid defenders we now lack. The league is different this year too. Tons of high scoring offenses, not so much D.
     
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    I hear you, but listen -- our D used to be better back then, so it kind of worked. OK, we used to be 21st in 3pt%. Now we're the worst. This needs to go up, so that we could at least be close to average. When it comes to Austin and Lonnie, I'd prefer someone who is big/tall enough to legitimately start at the 3. The volume issue will solve itself easily, I'm sure of it.
     
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