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  1. JSM

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    Stein on the Bojan Bogdanovic rumors

    Here's his full quote about the Lakers wanting to see DS and TB back in action before taking action
    And lastly, Taiwan has emerged as a FA destination for those out of the league
     
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    The full quote is as dumb as the snippet. This is thinking Ariza will fix things all over again. Schröder is decent, but like Russ he’s a turnover machine when playmaking, he jumps to pass too much, he telegraphs passes. He’s not going to fix anything except letting us not have to play Nunn. Bryant might be decent, but he’s a backup big, he’s a Jones replacement at best, you do not need to see these players back to decide if this team needs to make moves. Unless you just do not care at all about being a playoff team or building anything for the future except a culture of losing and being ok with losing.
     
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    Guys, the “we are waiting for X thing” is such a false flag. They are waiting until the off-season just accept it.
     
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    :cry:

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    Yeah that changes the math for me quite a bit. Considering Bev and Nunn are zero-value/negative assets, the combination of both those trades would almost be like swapping Hield for Bogdanovic, Burks, and Noel.

    That would definitely be intriguing. Splitting our contracts into more players that are both useful and on tradeable contracts would be beneficial.

    On “waiting for Bryant and Schröder”… that’s like the next game. Again I’m not seeing why this deserves big uproar. It makes sense to me.

    I’ve jokingly compared waiting for their return to the Ariza situation last year, but it’s really not that comparable. I don’t think it’s delusional to expect more production from players in their 20s than the 36 year old corpse of Trevor Ariza.

    And nobody is claiming that Schröder or Bryant are going to save the season. But it still makes sense to gauge what kind of fit and production we should expect from them, and to get a feel of whether or not this season is even salvageable. If this current roster is dropping games to the Pistons and Spurs even when fully healthy, I don’t think a trade is saving them.

    In most of these trade ideas being floated, we’re getting more players than we’re sending out. So we’d have to make some important decisions on who to cut or throw in as filler.

    What if Bryant starts playing well but we pull the trigger on one of these deals, and now we have a logjam at center and are left wishing we could have maneuvered Noel into a different player? What if Schröder really struggles and we realize we now have ZERO point guards worth playing and are left wishing we could have switched up the combination of deals to maintain a little more guard depth?

    Then it’s “Why couldn’t Rob wait another week or two! See I told you he always loses the deals on the periphery by not paying attention to detail!”
     
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    And what pray tell is going to happen this offseason? with a 134 cap we have 91.6 on the books already, we will need to sign around 12 mil in vet minimum deals @ 1.8 each, we'll have an MLE of 7mil and say 5 mil of various rookie/scrub players. That's gonna leave us with 19 million. Enough for one serious role player. That's right, that's exactly what Buddy Heild makes next year so that's about what you can expect us to get. Not a (big) difference-maker. Also, we need to resign Reaves which is not accounted for here at all. For us to get a star player or a few big-time role players we need to trade this season and get their bird rights.

    edit: technically we can sign a player(s) that bring to the cap end and add the MLE after so we can go a little higher say 25mil. Still, that's just a better role player or 2 decent players depending on how good a shopper Rob is.
     
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    I thought this was a very level headed podcast from the Kam Brothers. Andy expresses awareness of the reasonable frustration the fanbase has with the front office, while laying out why it still doesn’t necessarily make sense to rush into a move.
     
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    feel like people would be happy if we dealt russ for a credible backup big and credible backup pg, so why isn't swapping nunn and jones for schroder and bryant a good thing?

    i think hj hits it all here:

    also curious as to why people think waiting a few more games is that big a deal. there's no real recovery from 2-10 in the way that people want. so you don't rush into things and make moves that are looking past just this season. sacrificing 4 more losses or whatever is just not worth the hand-wringing. we're out of it. no move will put us back in it this year.

    the only think i'm certain of as of right now is that nunn and beverley can go as soon as something viable arises. russ is trickier because of the size of his salary and the long-term repercussions of what comes back.

    i'm still on board with taking on meh-to-bad salary this year and next (i know it's unpopular), and i think options like that will be available all the way up to the deadline.

    in the meantime, if lebron and AD want to make the playoffs, they better lead the way.
     
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    Some financials on the extensions/market value for Cam Johnson, PJ Washington, Grant Williams, Cam Reddish and Coby White
     
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    watch them get him for covington and a 2nd rounder
     
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    Should have known that.
     
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    f*** off Sweaty Stevie!
     
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    Dang, it looks like Max Christie could develop into quite a player. Do you guys think the Lakers would consider trading him in a win-now move, similar to the THT deal? What if Detroit offered Bojan for Christie and Beverly? Would the Lakers take that deal?
     
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    I wouldn’t because we need multiple good pieces to compete. It’s not like we are only one piece away. I think we are at least three to four significant upgrades away from competing for even a playoff spot.
     
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    no because they also need to consider the future. this team won't suddenly become a playoff contender with bojan
     
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    You sign the vet mins after using your cap. What's there is just not how it works
     
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    I hear you. It look's like Christie at minimum might be a Danny Green type. There is just such a premium placed on wing defenders who can shoot. Although very young and raw, Christie seems to check both boxes. Even if the Lakers were to do the Bojan trade in conjunction with another trade to bring back Turner/Hield or Rozier/Oubre, we end up loosing a good wing defender, and we dont really add any, unless maybe you consider Oubre. He might be, but I'm not sure if he wuld be a long term peace. His 3-ball is still kind of shaky. Also, I dont know about his D. A Bojan/LBJ front court would not be the best defensively. If the Lakers get Bojan and loose Christie in the process, I think they should I an above average wing defending shooting guard (who can shoot) with Westbrook and pick (s). A KCP type. Could this be Jason Richardson? Who else is out there that could fill that role? Maybe better off passing on Bojan, keeping Christie and doing a Charlotte deal?
     
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    What the H Showtime …. you’re always trying to trade our good young players off. :D Reaves mentioned multiple times in past and now Christie. We need to hang onto some of these young guys for the future and continuity.
     
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