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  1. ADKOBE

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    Lebron has made some dumb political takes on twitter also, not to Kyrie's extreme, it eventually fades away until the media jumps onto a new bigger story. I will accept Irving because he can play the game, plus he can clarify his stance or admit that he f up, it's his choice, is he a real racist or just made a stupid error putting him as a target of being taken out of context by trying to stir the pot.

    In general of serious topics, I have issues that some don't research all the facts of the case before emotionally jumping to conclusions, we seen this many times on the internet, we seen Lebron making comments on twitter about a serious event without gathering all the facts.
     
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    Okay well I didn’t see that coming. Honestly that’s a pretty well written apology.

    I doubt he’s sincere and this was probably delicately crafted by some PR team, but that’s still a much better approach than the doubling down I assumed would happen
     
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    What a start to this season.

    What the heck is going on?

    Lol.
     
  4. KareemtheGreat33

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    yup pretty much
     
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    There, he apologized. Let's move on & shoot the offer. KY2LA.
     
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    Let’s go get Kyrie even though he’s a “bad” person

     
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    KD probably threatened him at gunpoint and made him do it
     
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    I can agree with part of this and have to disagree with part. I agree it's possible she was initially confused and then later scared of losing her job.

    I disagree that we can't say what the proper response should have been. According to her account, Primo did not just do something extremely inappropriate nine times, he committed an illegal act. As a professional therapist she is a mandated reporter. She had an ethical and legal responsibility to report his behavior both to the team and to the authorities. The likelihood for that pattern of behavior is that he had or would do it to someone else beside her. It was her professional responsibility to ensure his criminal behavior did not continue. Her possible personal fear for her job does not diminish that serious responsibility.

    And I for sure agree it's not an issue to joke about.
     
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    I agree, but Kyrie, more than anyone seems to bring the outside noise into the locker room, NBA media and several other platforms. I mean, look at what
    we are all talking about. His views and opinions. Which I also want to escape when watching the games. I feel like sports is the only time that Republicans/Democrats/Men/women/gay/straight all get along for the most part. Kryie is mucking that up with all his bs IMO
     
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    Lebron has made political statements that the OTHER party view as dumb. (and thats fine) but Kyrie is supporting HATE. Big difference.
     
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    I honestly view it as the bare minimum. But it is an apology and you gotta respect it to a degree.
     
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    I'm not looking for an argument on the issue, but I'll try to explain my professionalism comment once more, then let it drop. I completely get the workplace power dynamics factor that may have influenced her response. I also am not even 1% blaming her for being a victim of his alleged behavior. If he did what she claims, then he is 100% to blame and she is 100% a true victim.

    However, as a professional therapist she also had / has both an ethical and legal responsibility as a mandated reporter to report illegal activity that come to light in her sessions that represent a threat to her or others. In this context it required her reporting it to the team AND reporting it to the authorities. She apparently did talk to the Spurs about it and they did not deal with it as they should have. But neither her or the Spurs contacted the authorities as far as I have read. That is a lack of professional responsibility by both the Spurs and the therapist. What is strange beyond reason is her continuing to see him 8 additional times after the first incident with him exposing himself each of the subsequent times.
     
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    His charitable work is awesome, but what does that have to do with supporting hateful antisemitic comments?
     
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    kyrie isn't necessarily a "terrible person." he's just a misinformed idiot

    lebron has said some dumb things in the past as well but he's done some great things for the community at the same time too
     
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    Oh please. What is the over/under on how long he goes before saying or doing something that undermines or completely reverses the apology? 3 days?
     
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    Listening to Kyrie's "speech" which tbh is something I have never done (listen to him talk) I realize that this man is 100% coocoo in the head. Saying he found out about the dictionary and the ability to look up words now makes him wise and empowered....surely that helps but did the dictionary tell him the world wasn't flat too? Someone's gonna have to break it to him about the Easter Bunny and Santa too.
     
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    They're all bad people!! To someone!!
     
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    Can you post this antisemitic comments? I can’t seem to find it anywhere, maybe you’re talking about Kanye?
     
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    I wonder how many people have read the book in question. Did any reporters do their research before running to label him anti whatever? What exactly is in the book? And is it possible that he just overlooked some of those things because he was focused on the things that applied to his own community and he thought it was worth sharing?

    if a positive message was lost to “his people” over this, that’s unfortunate. I don’t think he’s at all malicious, but thinks of himself as a free thinker.

    in this situation, he is at worst careless. And it will now cost him a fine plus a minimum of 5 unpaid games. Probably a million plus dollars.

    Our main stream media is no longer full of honest, fact checking, truth seeking individuals, so I understand his initial reaction of refusing to be bullied by the conglomerates over something he didn’t say or mean. But in his position and with his influence, you can’t post stuff in social media without looking at all sides of things. You don’t only represent yourself, but your team, your league, and your sport. Wokeness is a little out of control these days, but if the book was filled with hateful things that he overlooked, he’s probably paying an appropriate price.

    But it is fascinating what the media chooses to go after and what they ignore. Kyrie’s eyes are open to it more than most in his position.

    BUT, would he be a distraction on the Lakers? Would the benefits outweigh the downside? Now that we see RW turning things around, is he a clearly better fit? If another round of something like COVID hits, are fans willing to support my body my choice over his availability in the playoffs?

    no matter if you support him or not, think he’s crazy or not, it will all come down to “Does he benefit the team”, “Do the positives outweigh the negatives”, and “Will he be available when you need him?”

    I think most round earthers don’t take that chance.
     
  20. KareemtheGreat33

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    As you told me before @sirronstuff “To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.” Now I don’t know who made this quote that you admire so much but it seems from a wise man:giggle:

    But no matter, do it Rob you useless POS
     
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