2022-23 Team Developments: News / Trades / Free Agents / Rumors

Discussion in 'Lakers Discussion' started by BangBoomPow, Jun 3, 2021.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. Slick2021

    Slick2021 - Lakers MVP -

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2021
    Messages:
    8,751
    Likes Received:
    7,501
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Come again...
    Lebron is the biggest PG in the League using your criteria. WTF are you talking about?
     
  2. JSM

    JSM - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    18,261
    Likes Received:
    70,573
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Defense wins rings. Offense wins regular season games. With today's rules nearly anyone can put up points.

    AD hasn't shown consistent dominance since the bubble and Bron is squaring off against Father Time every night. I'm not betting against him, he would've won the scoring title last year if he wanted, but Father Time is coming sooner than later.

    If they had a roster that made any sense and if they're healthy in the playoffs, they're still as good of a pair as you'll find in the league for a 7 game series. BUT Rob cost us any chance with this roster. Your best addition is a 34 year old PG who only plays half a season, actively hates your most expensive player and plays the same position as Russ, Nunn, and occasionally Bron. Second best is yet another undersized guard who is currently a 3rd stringer on your roster. No defense. No shooting. No chance.

    I like the additions of Bryant and Jones at C. Probably my two favorite moves we made. BUT two minimum signings at the position does not make you "a problem" for other teams. Turner would.
     
  3. Slick2021

    Slick2021 - Lakers MVP -

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2021
    Messages:
    8,751
    Likes Received:
    7,501
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    They haven't played in two seasons. That's the issue. I get the what ifs but it goes both ways. If they are healthy it's a different story altogether. I wouldn't pooh on the minimum thing. Monk was an excellent minimum signing, these kids can be just as good. They won't be relied on to be stars. I don't think Bev was our best pickup..several of these kids are going to have more impact than him IMO. Nunn too, and this is only his 3rd season in the League.
     
  4. LTLakerFan

    LTLakerFan - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    36,614
    Likes Received:
    60,874
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    So Cal
    Offline
    :Kobe Snickering:
     
    Cookie likes this.
  5. KobeKing4208

    KobeKing4208 - Rookie -

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2022
    Messages:
    254
    Likes Received:
    418
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Offline
    It is not any criteria. Man you are dense.

    There are these things called rosters, they list the team's players who are signed to contracts and in the info they list the position of said players.

    One of those positions is PG.

    There are at least 50 POINT GUARDS (listed as such on their rosters) who are 6'3 or taller in the NBA and anywhere from 15-20 will be starting the season at that position for their respective teams. Another half dozen to ten or so figure to see plenty of time at the position.

    Based on that alone and NO OTHER CRITERIA...your blank statement that "we had one of the biggest PG's in the NBA" in reference to Russell Westbrook was absolutely and unequivocally dumb
     
  6. Cookie

    Cookie The Dame of Doom Staff Member

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2015
    Messages:
    4,361
    Likes Received:
    21,664
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Online

    Oh look, a quote in the same article. Ham is just being professional and not throwing his players under the bus. Something that Russ could learn.
     
  7. Slick2021

    Slick2021 - Lakers MVP -

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2021
    Messages:
    8,751
    Likes Received:
    7,501
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Nope. That's not what you posted, you posted a bunch of guys of various heights and I responded that most of them were forwards. Then it turned to well they are wings and guys that have the ability to share PG duties. Now it's 50 guys listed on their rosters as PG. So now basically 30 guys in the NBA fit that criteria, how many are over 6'3?


    If you don't understand that James has been the PG on every team he's been on regardless of his listed position than you are unequivocally dumb. You can start Austin Reaves at PG and say he's nominally the point, but it's James that's the actual PG. Same as it was with Kyrie or Wade. Or Bradley or KCP. I guess he is only the PG if he's listed as such? We have two of the biggest PG in the NBA. James and Westbrook. Well now only if we list LeBron as a PG
     
  8. OX1947

    OX1947 - Lakers MVP -

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2016
    Messages:
    8,301
    Likes Received:
    17,646
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    I would be in shock if Kyrie Irving gets max money next summer. Let alone 47 per.

    Lakers going with a 3rd star next year would kill depth right off the bat. This team needs depth. No way around it.
     
  9. Slick2021

    Slick2021 - Lakers MVP -

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2021
    Messages:
    8,751
    Likes Received:
    7,501
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Yes..and that same spiel has been posted by 100 different writers since December Cookie. Get back at me when this rumored trade goes down.
     
  10. Cookie

    Cookie The Dame of Doom Staff Member

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2015
    Messages:
    4,361
    Likes Received:
    21,664
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Online
    Where there’s smoke, there’s fire. Trades don’t get done all the time, that doesn’t mean the team doesn’t WANT to trade that player.
     
  11. alam1108

    alam1108 - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    13,585
    Likes Received:
    37,190
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Laker Land
    Offline
    We've talked to Houston (last year), Charlotte, Indy, Brooklyn, Knicks, Spurs and Utah about trading Russ... how does one think we aren't shopping him after that?

    The mental gymnastics...
     
    abeer3, ElginTheGreat, Cookie and 3 others like this.
  12. Slick2021

    Slick2021 - Lakers MVP -

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2021
    Messages:
    8,751
    Likes Received:
    7,501
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Back on the hypotheticals.hypothetical..

    What teams are better suited with all this size and wings, that makes them better than the Lakers with a healthy James and Davis? Why? Can someone list these superior rosters.

    Golden State seems like a small ball team but what's there height and length advantage

    Clippers ditto..and Kawhi and PG13 are automatically assumed to be healthier this season than James and Davis?

    Denver Jokic is a bad boy, Murray is coming back from an ACL and Porter is still out with back surgery. Why are they soo good?

    Dallas hate that they got Wood but who else do they have besides Luka, and Dinwiddie? That we should be fearing

    Phoenix CP3 is a midget but he can still hoop. What's the glaring size advantage they have over this team.

    Memphis I like these kids but size and length how do they stack up.

    Minnesota..they have size with Gobert and KAT.. I'd like to see the rest of their roster.

    This puts us at 8th..with a healthy Lebron AD and the size and length we have right now? I don't believe it for a second.
     
    Last edited: Sep 9, 2022
  13. Slick2021

    Slick2021 - Lakers MVP -

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2021
    Messages:
    8,751
    Likes Received:
    7,501
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Teams talk all the time bro, we actually traded Talen. Nobody knew we were "talking " to Utah about that, until it went down.

    Frankly it seems that most of the " reputed" deals don't actually go down. Especially those ones that get "talked" about for months. I guess "talking" is shopping sort of.

    Actually Rob's MO is that he doesn't talk. He moves in silence, so the existence of constant chatter should be a caution sign.
     
    Last edited: Sep 9, 2022
  14. FrontOfJersey22

    FrontOfJersey22 - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2021
    Messages:
    5,348
    Likes Received:
    9,147
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    I see you don’t have enough of an imagination to come up with your own rebuttals. So sad.
     
  15. Slick2021

    Slick2021 - Lakers MVP -

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2021
    Messages:
    8,751
    Likes Received:
    7,501
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Ok..or there is speculation to drive page views and clicks by writers. A lot of that went down this summer. It's been said that GMs talk trades all the time every season. I guess that could be smoke if it's leaked.
     
  16. Slick2021

    Slick2021 - Lakers MVP -

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2021
    Messages:
    8,751
    Likes Received:
    7,501
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    The rebuttal was there for you to read.
     
  17. KobeKing4208

    KobeKing4208 - Rookie -

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2022
    Messages:
    254
    Likes Received:
    418
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Offline
    Sometimes you just got to bite the bullet and push the ignore button
     
  18. JSM

    JSM - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    18,261
    Likes Received:
    70,573
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Ainge wants a first for each of his three assets

    I think Bogdanovic can definitely net you a first. JC can probably net you a top 15 protected. Beasley? Two high 2nds? So if they want to split them, they can get better than packaging them. But how are they going to unload Conley? They need to move these guys before the season, I think the offers get worse at the deadline and they would have to put them on the shelf until they're traded because they might accidentally win them some games.

    So while they might have higher pick value individually, you have to factor in negative assets.

    I think one first and a swap is more than fair on our parts.
     
  19. Weezy

    Weezy Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    18,688
    Likes Received:
    75,809
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Anaheim
    Offline
    Jordan Clarkson isn’t getting a first round pick from me when the Jazz are having a fire sale. Bogdanovic, sure, Vanderbilt, maybe, but Beasley and Clarkson, come on. Ainge just thinks he can get whatever he wants for whoever because for some reason he usually does. Teams have to stop giving that little weasel whatever he asks for, like Stanley Johnson for example.
     
  20. Alcindor

    Alcindor - Lakers Starter -

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2014
    Messages:
    2,659
    Likes Received:
    5,955
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Rancho Cucamonga
    Offline
    I looked over rosters, we could trade Damian Jones, Wenyen Gabriel, Max Christie and a 2nd for Cam if we wait until 9/29 due to Damian Jones recently having been signed. Cam wishing to be traded, and here, helps. Maybe we sweeten it with another 2nd. This is a deal Rob can pull off that helps us immediately and into the future (who knows how much) without using our FRPs and we still have Russ to maybe use around the trade deadline if the odd deal pops up. Cam is 23, can play serious minutes, makes us big defensively in the middle wing area and can hit from 3.
     
    Last edited: Sep 9, 2022
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page