2022-23 Team Developments: News / Trades / Free Agents / Rumors

yeah, I'm in now hurry. If we have to roll with Westbrook, I think Ham will do his thing and get his buyin on D effort, or he won't play and be Mr. Surly Pants.

Worst case is he expires and is a tradeable asset at the deadline, and no, we don't need to ship out (2) 1sts to make that happen.

 

so to be clear: indy will take russ and 2 1sts for hield/turner. and we'll give up 2 1sts for kyrie, but not those two. and bkn may be more interested in players than picks, right?

seems like there's a solution here....

 

Yeah, these teams need to be talking.

 

Does this make sense?

Lakers get: Irving and Harris

Pacers get: Westbrook, 2027 Lakers 1st, 2029 Lakers 1st

Nets get: Turner, Hield and THT

 

lol, according to the stats, it makes us worse!

this also works if the nets like harris as much as some say:

 

To us it may, and I'd even say maybe to Indy but who knows wtf the Nets are thinking. It should be a huge boon for the Nets. Hield and Turner's contracts should be attractive both on amount (only 40mil total) and length also considering Brooklyn being a desirable location to play in. As for Indy, I guess it's how much they want to be stuck with Westbrook when Turner is off after this season and Hield the next.

 

feel like windhorst has been reasonably plugged in and:

 

I just ran that one on trade machine as well. Maybe add Nunn to Broklyn as a replacement for Irving? Kind of makes sense? In theory, Turner is a good complement to Simmons, since Simmons cant shoot. Nunn is a much more scaled down (but similar) version of Kyrie (in terms of shooting I guess?). They take a flier on THT, who could create. THT not a good fit with Simmons though. Turner is a good fit with them though, so maybe they do it? Is KD friends with any of those cats?

 

We should stand pat for now IMO. This team is already better than last year's bunch roster wise. If Lebron, AD are healthy and engaged, we are still one of the better teams in the West. As is..Nunn becomes the wildcard, I hyped the signing, stayed the course until the bitter end. He just never suited up...I'm not adverse to a trade involving him, if it yields a consistent talent in return. Still... at 6 million dollars per, his contract is extremely team friendly for the talent level and potential impact. We need him to be available and perform to his potential, just like Lebron and AD, of course those two are more important, but every guy has his role.

Then there is Russ...whew lol..that subject is a 300 page thread of it's own.

I'll just say this...James and Davis played together in 21 games. Nunn never played at all. Rondo, Bradley, Ariza, Augustin, Baze,Jordan, Howard, Ellington, Melo. That roster was hot a** garbage, especially considering the first 3 things I mentioned. That's not all on the Westbrook trade either, because we went out with the exact same scenario of only having vet mins and a mini MLE and somehow came up with a better roster this offseason.

 

Alright. Then let’s move on.

 

I suppose we will see. But if we’re fighting for the play in game (and there’s a good chance we will be as currently constructed), I’m not sure we will be less desperate or in that much better of a negotiating position to trade Russ. Teams are still going to try to fleece us.

 

Look, I get that Westbrook’s trade value will get better as we approach the deadline due to the expiring contract. I get that standing pat for now may be the best use of your assets, especially if you think your team is good enough to stay afloat until you can find a trade that makes sense.

I also get that at this point, the distaste towards Westbrook has morphed to such extremes that it probably doesn’t accurately reflect what he can contribute. Naturally after how disappointing last season was, we’ve probably allowed our worst perceptions of Westbrook to fester, and brushed aside the glimpses of him still being a net-positive player for us. There likely ARE some ways that Ham could utilize him to get production, without bringing down the team until we can find a trade. The fanbase’s thoughts on Westbrook and how he can fit into the team is more based on emotion than logic at this point.

BUT I DON’T CARE. I have no patience or logic left in me when it comes to Westbrook. Trade him before camp or send him home. The idea of watching him play another game for the Lakers physically makes me sick, and I’m only semi-joking when I say that.

If the idea is that you’re going to wait until the trade deadline because that’s when his expiring will be most valuable, well then you’ve already given up on the idea of Westbrook still having on-court trade value to other teams. So don’t bother pretending trying to bolster his value by trying to make it work. I’d feel MUCH better having Russ stay away from the team and just roll into camp with a Nunn/Schröder PG rotation. That would also open up more opportunities for THT as a primary ball handler, and he actually has value that could still potentially be salvaged.

 

Hopefully this is posturing but who knows. I’m firmly on the move him before camp side of this as well.

 

No one is plugged into Kyrie. This is Windhorst taking a shot at anything he can't get into too much trouble over. Why would Kyrie want to be on a play-in team.

 

Meh..Lebron James and Anthony Davis are better players, than even most of our fans seem to think. It is absolutely imperative that those two play and play together for the bulk of the season. Here is a sobering fact..the Lakers have sucked for Lebron's entire time here, if he and AD didn't play together...period. it didn't matter at all, who was on the team, and how well that roster " fit". We sucked without James and Davis...the only success this team had was in the chip season and the 1st part of the following season. Times when those two played together.

If those play together for most of this season, there is no way in hell that this is some kind of damn play in team. That s*** is totally ridiculous, and smacks of some pure BS Lakers hate, that entirely too many of our fan base has seemingly bought into full bore. I get being disappointed and all that, but there are no monsters in the West. There are some teams that can compete if they are healthy, just like the Los Angeles Lakers.

 

Nah. We’ve literally been in the play in game and missed the playoffs entirely last year. To dismiss that as a possibility is foolish IMO. I’d like to think we will get some good fortune on the injury front but we could certainly end up in that spot if we see the same injuries we’ve seen the past few seasons.

Even without injuries, we can’t shoot as currently constructed. We got younger, which helps, but I don’t know how much better we are. At least not yet.

could multiple guys make leaps on defense and with their shooting? I sure hope so. But if there’s a chance to improve the team and we’re confident we can make moves (as some reports have said) then we need to make them.

 

There is a trade out there that will come out of no where.