2022-23 Team Developments: News / Trades / Free Agents / Rumors

I don't even know you anymore NBA. At this point, it feels like the league deserves to have a financial recession and it's own "great reset" if that were a thing. Allegedly.

 

the counterpoint is the last time the mavs let a sub-allstar go for a too-rich asking price, he immediately got two mvps.

i don't think this is that, but i think the mavs may regret their inability to form a stronger relationship with brunson. when you draft a guy in the second round who becomes worth a big deal, you'd like to reap those benfits, imo.

 

Yeah. So far free agency has stunk.

 

Yeah. I think that loss will haunt the Mavs even when Brunson doesn’t live up to his new deal.

 

Holy hell. This is amazing.

 

A lot of thought went into this, bravo.

2 things, Jazz and Pacers. I find most of this believable Once the Nets come down from their golden throne and realize they will not get back equal value with KD

Jazz: have never been a destination city and so an open cap isn't the boon you may think it is. However, when I consider all things, I will say Clarkson has an option next season and that is never good if you are a rebuilding Jazz organization. Ainge may look at it as a time to collect picks again, surround Westbrook with sycophants and just sell tickets to their blonde, buck-toothed, inbred fans until he can raise a squad like in Boston.

Indy: I just don't think Indy will feel that is enough for Hield and Turner. They overvalue Hield and Turner is worth his weight.

So for me, I feel Indy is the one that pulls the plug on this deal.

 

I dont see why the Jazz should rebuild. I know they're showing all signs that's where they are heading, but they've been a good regular season team for years, who've struggled in the playoffs.

with the haul they got for Gobert, I think its possible they could get a serviceable center like Turner or Porzingis for not much and use the rest of the assets to retool around Mitchell.

 

Seems to me like a case of understanding their ceiling. Mitchell is good but most likely won't be there much longer. Conley is on his last legs. Few other solid players but they're super capped success wise. Mitchell and getting someone like Turner would make them just good enough to not get good draft picks, and it's not like any big FA is going to pick Utah. They should just start from scratch and use the draft to figure it out.

 

I agree regarding your comment about Utah being a free agent destination. They won’t be signing any of the premier free agents with that cap space, but what I can see them doing is running their team like OKC. Ainge will use the cap space to sign some decent role players with upside, but most of the cap space will be used as a salary dump destination with the price being more future picks. He will keep doing this until they “hit” on a big time draft pick they can actually build around.

The thing with the Pacers is that Turner is a expiring contract as well. He’s going to walk with no compensation for the Pacers next summer, and the only teams willing to surrender assets for him now would be contenders or teams who truly believe they can re-sign him long term with his bird rights. I think he is able to fetch 1 first round pick and that’s it. Regarding Buddy Hield, is there even a market for him outside of the Lakers? His contract is Gordon Hayward-esque.

 

agree with all this. i think ainge believes he can build through the draft again, and i think that indy's guys aren't worth anything. the only reason they won't trade them for russ is because they hate us. unloading hield's contract and getting a first for turner is the best they can do, imo.

 

Nothing new.

 

woj actually unbiased there, compared to the two guys on the left, who are clearly laker haters. dude on the right is where i'm at--everyone's saying it's such a miracle to get kyrie for russ...why isn't everyone lining up to trade for kyrie then? his market's not as bad as russ's, but it's close.

anyway, i'm settling on a general rule for trades of picks that involves not moving unprotected picks beyond the projected utility of the returning asset. so again, trading all available 1sts during AD's prime? check. trading all available firsts 3 years after kyrie's prime? no dice.

 

Accolades for sure, but I think you should have taken financials into it more, specifically for our end.

I don't see Buss and co. giving up a 1st round pick AND taking on $15 million towards the cap which would put us in the 180-185 million range and the NBA's top tax payer...

RW + THT + Dunn is only $62-63 million

Irving+ Hield + Clarkson + Gay equals over $77 million

Plus, your roster is still extremely guard heavy and the only wing you got back was Gay, who turns 36 days from now and is coming off his lowest season in points, minutes, etc....

 

Word is Pelinka told Brooklyn he isn't giving them both 1st rounders. Westbrook and a 1st and call it a day.

Brooklyn has to make a decision on if they will value a little something now or possibly nothing next off season. Once Westbrook is off the books, do the Lakers max out Kyrie next off season? All unclear what ifs.

I think the owners are doing themselves a service by not catering to these bums. I hope they stick to it.

 

Pretty sure it does not work money wise

 

Same here. This is why Rob is smartly digging his heels in(I think). He knows even if we get Kyrie, we still won’t have enough shooting and I’m in agreement with him. Now, if Harris’ medical report is clean, and we could somehow get him or Curry included and have to give up both Firsts, I’m in.

 

I have to disagree. I'm of the same mind that the reluctance to include the second FRP is because Rob thinks he needs it to complete another trade. I also agree that just swapping Russ for Kyrie probably doesn't get us to championship level given the current roster. But the thing is, the only way we're competing for anything next season or the season after is if Kyrie is on the roster (I think LeBron is leaving if we don't get Kyrie). Sure just swapping Russ for Kyrie probably only gives us like a 5% chance at a title, but not trading for Kyrie now leaves us with a zero percent chance. Its the one move on the board to get us back in that conversation. A month ago we were hoping we could get Hayward and Kelly Oubre for Russ, but the seas parted and Kyrie somehow became available. Getting Kyrie in the fold now, even at the sake of giving up that second pick, also extends our window another year IMO by convincing LeBron to stay. Having another star ballhandler like Kyrie allows LeBron to keep aging gracefully, rather than him having to create everything and miss 25 games a year with injuries. Even if we trade for Kyrie now and lose in like the second round this season, we'll still have some flexibility to keep building the right team around the three main guys next offseason. At that point THT may have more value around the league after a bounce-back season and a more friendly contract. If we don't trade for him now, we probably lose the chance to sign him next offseason because LeBron will be gone and Durant may have realized he doesn't have a better option than staying with the Nets.