WMC 23-24: Whine, Moan & Complain! LET THE COMPLAINING BEGIN!

Discussion in 'Lakers Discussion' started by puffyusaf#2, Aug 2, 2021.

  1. sirronstuff

    sirronstuff - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    30,442
    Likes Received:
    74,871
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Your time is running out Ham
    Location:
    Laker Purgatory
    Offline
    please allow me to exaggerate as fans are prone to do from time to time

    :ADnaughty:
     
  2. FrontOfJersey22

    FrontOfJersey22 - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2021
    Messages:
    4,414
    Likes Received:
    7,598
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    No, it’s what happens when your Franchise sells its soul to Klutch and LeGM.
     
    sirronstuff likes this.
  3. LTLakerFan

    LTLakerFan - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    34,791
    Likes Received:
    58,371
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    So Cal
    Offline
    McClung just left South Bay for Warriors SL team. Damn! They value him apparently. Guess our evaluators like smaller, less athletic and similarly skilled (if he actually is??) Pippen more? Handing him the 2 way.

    Bleep! Was a fan.
     
    Cookie likes this.
  4. sirronstuff

    sirronstuff - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    30,442
    Likes Received:
    74,871
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Your time is running out Ham
    Location:
    Laker Purgatory
    Offline
    same thing?

    :Kobe Shrug:
     
  5. FrontOfJersey22

    FrontOfJersey22 - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2021
    Messages:
    4,414
    Likes Received:
    7,598
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    From what I’ve seen of Mac and Pippen so far, I prefer Pippen. He’s much better at creating space for his own shot and a better passer. They are both small, so that’s a wash in my book.
     
  6. FrontOfJersey22

    FrontOfJersey22 - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2021
    Messages:
    4,414
    Likes Received:
    7,598
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Yeah, that one would be hard to debate.
     
    sirronstuff likes this.
  7. JSM

    JSM - Lakers Legend -

    Top Poster Of Month

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    16,394
    Likes Received:
    64,309
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline


    Remind me again why we were to cheap to buy back in at the end of the draft?
     
    alam1108 likes this.
  8. LaVarBallsDad

    LaVarBallsDad - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    16,172
    Likes Received:
    31,056
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    I mean it's cool to get excited over an SL game, but it is an SL game.

    Come back in a year or so and if he is a healthy rotation player, then I would gladly say you were right.

    And he may well be, but to say the Lakers got it wrong so early is a stretch.

    Respectfully.
     
  9. JSM

    JSM - Lakers Legend -

    Top Poster Of Month

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    16,394
    Likes Received:
    64,309
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Not saying we got it wrong as in Walker > Christie, although I do think Walker can contribute this year because he has a NBA body and Christie cannot because he doesn't. I'm suggesting we got it wrong because we failed to commit to another buy in at the very end of the draft. He is and will be head and shoulders better than Pip Jr and fills a need at a position we still haven't properly addressed. Big D & 3 wing who can play up a position. From the highlights he shows the same stuff he did in college and will be the same stuff he does in the pros. Even if it's capped as a 11th man, that's something we don't have right now. And Rob pinning addressing that all on filler in a Kyrie trade bouncing his way is a foolish, risky play.
     
    Last edited: Jul 8, 2022
  10. LaVarBallsDad

    LaVarBallsDad - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    16,172
    Likes Received:
    31,056
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Duly noted.
     
  11. Khmrp

    Khmrp - Lakers MVP -

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2016
    Messages:
    11,910
    Likes Received:
    13,649
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    im starting to despise team Klutch
     
    sirronstuff and OX1947 like this.
  12. OX1947

    OX1947 - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2016
    Messages:
    7,987
    Likes Received:
    17,268
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Some of us already started a while ago.
     
  13. LaVarBallsDad

    LaVarBallsDad - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    16,172
    Likes Received:
    31,056
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Meh, it isn't that bad.

    WMC: you guys WMC about the wrong things. Very few of you WMC'ed about trading for Russell Westbrick.

    LeKlutch is least of my worries.
     
    ElginTheGreat and Helljumper like this.
  14. sirronstuff

    sirronstuff - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    30,442
    Likes Received:
    74,871
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Your time is running out Ham
    Location:
    Laker Purgatory
    Offline
    I've always been a huge fan of Team Lebron and all that comes with it

    :Shaqfunnyface:
     
    LaVarBallsDad likes this.
  15. Johgnyb77

    Johgnyb77 - Rookie -

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2022
    Messages:
    434
    Likes Received:
    186
    Trophy Points:
    43
    Offline
    I used to know every single one of our players names( even the bench warmers) growing up !! Ever since LeBron joined the lakers I have no freaking idea who half of these guys are ! #FREETHELAKERS

    u guys hyped up Andre Drummond like he was Scottie pippen
     
  16. LTLakerFan

    LTLakerFan - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    34,791
    Likes Received:
    58,371
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    So Cal
    Offline
    LOL it wasn’t “u guys” … it was Slick.

    ;) :D

    Just teasing him and he don’t care anyway. :)
     
  17. Johgnyb77

    Johgnyb77 - Rookie -

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2022
    Messages:
    434
    Likes Received:
    186
    Trophy Points:
    43
    Offline
    56A30FA5-F6BB-413A-832B-60D6AED5E5C7.jpeg Lakers are like a bad Adam Sandler movie where he hires his own friends to act/ direct/ produce .
     
  18. Johgnyb77

    Johgnyb77 - Rookie -

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2022
    Messages:
    434
    Likes Received:
    186
    Trophy Points:
    43
    Offline

    LeBron James is an equal opportunity employer !! Experience not necessary.
     
  19. fabfourlakers

    fabfourlakers - Lakers Starter -

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2014
    Messages:
    3,432
    Likes Received:
    7,823
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    You know what my WMC is?

    Next season is totally f***ed if we don't trade Westbrick now.

    If we keep him, good luck trying to get him to "buy in" when he knows that LeBron tried to get him off this team for his buddy Kyrie, and that Rob Pelinka tried to get him off this team for Hield/Turner.

    We've once again backed ourselves into a corner with only one way out...and that is exactly why teams are going to ask for multiple 1sts to get out of Russ.

    Also - we need to just decide what direction we're going - are we maximizing LeBron/AD or are we going to blow it all up and start over? Going in between, which means keeping Russ and hoping LeBron/AD are healthy, should NOT be an option. We need to decide what we're trying to do and stick with it. We keep going in between and it's frustrating as hell.

    Why are the Lakers SO scared of giving up 2027 and 2029 picks? Everybody acts like we don't have picks...we DO!

    2023 - we have a pick but it can be swapped
    2024 - we have a pick but it can be deferred
    2025 - we have a pick but it depends on if NOP uses it in 2024
    2026 - we have a pick
    2027- we have a pick
    2028- we have a pick
    2029- we have a pick

    So by my count - we're only losing ONE more pick in the next 7 years as of right now!

    This whole notion that the Lakers don't have picks is soooo overblown.

    Even if we gave up 2027 and 2029 - we'd still have 2023, 2024 (or 2025), 2026, and 2028 picks. That's more than enough picks for me and to be honest...we have done so well with scouting that we'll likely find gems in the 2nd round or undrafted during those years like we have in the past...so in reality, we're not losing much by NOT having picks as our scouting more than makes up for it.
     
  20. Weezy

    Weezy Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    17,905
    Likes Received:
    72,720
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Anaheim
    Offline
    The picks aren’t to use they’re trade assets. We can only trade our 27 and 29 picks. If we trade both at once we have ZERO assets left. If the kyrie trade doesn’t work out we’re finished, no way to improve. If we need to make another move at the deadline to improve in some way we can’t see right now, screwed, 29 pick is gone. I don’t get why we are so eager here to just throw away first round picks. Throwing in a pick for Schröder (though sure I get this one) and throwing in one for Russ is why we only have 2 left. It’s poor asset management, and it’s what leaves teams stuck being crap for a decade.
     
    Cookie and abeer3 like this.

Share This Page