2022-23 Team Developments: News / Trades / Free Agents / Rumors

Lol..Kyrie ain't coming and Russ ain't getting traded. The more realistic viewpoint is that we are down to trading THT, hoping Nunn is 100 % for next season, and convincing Monk to take a minor pay raise for one year, so that we can sign another player that outperforms his contract like he did with our MLE. Maybe snag at least 1 Reaves caliber kid by a 2nd rd pick or an undrafted FA. Then catch at least 2 decent, traded, waived/bought or a seeking more playing time players as a minimum signing. Not sexy or exciting, but it's more realistic than a big time trade saving the day IMO. It depends on who we got...this could work too.

 

Murray is potentially All-NBA good.

 

Yeah that one confused me as well. Plus Murray and Trae seem like an odd fit.

 

… Woj?

 

Russ would have to stay because we'd need his cap space to resign Kyrie next season. LOL imagine that locker room!!

 

buy him out?

 

Curious, would you all have pulled the trigger if THT, Nunn, and the 27 pick was on the table for Grant?

Feel like the perceived value of our future picks has increased since that package was floated around the trade deadline.

I’m not sure if I would have done that at this juncture. Grant would have been a great fit, but I’m not sure if he alone would be enough to cure these roster problems. So is the future pick worth it for someone on a 1 year deal, who you’d potentially have to overpay in a long term extension?

If it came down to it, I’d find it much easier to give up that pick in a Russ trade with Charlotte, even if it was just for some combination of Hayward, Oubre, and Plumlee (without Rozier).

Dumping Russ is addition by subtraction. Hayward is probably just as good as Grant when healthy. Hayward’s contract is probably going to look nicer than whatever extension Grant ends up signing. Plus a trade like this automatically solves your depth problems AND leaves you with THT and Nunn as tradable assets. On the other hand, the Grant trade leaves your inventory of assets almost completely barren, making any follow up moves very difficult.

 

There is a better chance of me being a C Bags fan than Kyrie taking the Mini-MLE. Beyond that? This Kyrie s*** is the dumbest s*** already to come out. Just an absolute waste of time and life. I hate all these media a******* and the junk they put out. Just pure trash and everyone eats it up like its Filet Mignon. Stupid waste of time, even for the off season.

 

And Hayward is going to leave you stuck with 60 million for a part time player for two years. That guy will be 32 this season he's no spring chicken. We could honestly do better than Oubre and Plumlee in FA. I'd take Jones and Warren. Or simply trade THT and Nunn for Plumlee and Washington. They would need to send US the 1st rd pick with Hayward so we can trade him somewhere else. I'd lean towards Grant.

I look at Grant like I did Wood, but a slightly better fit because of the defensive versatility, but still just a rotation piece not a star. Use the MLE on a big and that’s a decent squad. Now you still have Westbrook if you need to make a move at the deadline.

I would take Grant over Hayward all day. Either way Lebron and AD have to show up and ball out, or neither deal would amount to much for us.

 

Very little Rob can do until the Russ domino falls first. I feel like the team will be built very differently depending upon whether Russ is here or not. For example, if Russ is here and they determine to play him, THT most likely will be traded because those two just don’t fit.

 

weird that the spurs want to move murray. they spent years developing him and finally got him playing up to his full potential, now they just want to start over? or downgrade (imo) to collins?

agree here. i just didn't understand why detroit wanted air for him. they should have looked for someone who could play, imo. but i guess grant's insistence that he's a star and not a glue guy is the real issue for everyone involved.

i'm still willing to talk to philly, ny, charlotte about taking their undesirables for mine (russ).

 

still take him. russ just killed us last year and is likely to do it again. explore. every. single. option.

sure, i'd take grant over hayward, too. it wasn't possible. we chased grant with the THT/nunn/pick package already and were turned down, reportedly. i think the same happened with wood, essentially. people don't want to deal with us if it looks good for us, period.

 

I would have done THT/Nunn and the pick for Grant when we had the chance to save the season. Now? Not so much. I think we need that pick to trade Westbrook. I’m just mostly annoyed at Wood and Grant getting traded for practically late first round picks when it would cost us an arm and a leg to pull off something similar

 

We have to stop giving away picks like candy and actually attempting to get fair market value in these trades.

If teams don't want to deal with us under those fsir conditions, we have to move on. It's simple.

 

i feel like that's what's happened, though, right? we chased both of those guys, and if we could have had them for the same, we'd have them. we don't/didn't, so we move on.

not to keep bringing it up, but it's why i have higher hopes for a deal with charlotte. it's now positioned in the media that charlotte will give away the 13th or 15th pick to get off hayward. if we were to take him without taking one of those picks (maybe getting rozier or pj washington as one of the other players in the deal) we get to come out looking like a "loser", which is what everyone wants. but we won't be. we'll have 2-3 rotation players and still have our future picks, THT, and nunn to deal should something arise later. and we won't have the powder keg chemistry concerns, either.

 

From my understanding, the deal that Detroit got for Grant was the best one they received for him. I have to find the link, but if that's the case, we didn't even make a formal offer. To answer your question: yes, that's what happened, and I'm hoping it continues too.

I don't think the Lakers are going to take on years of Rozier or any other players that has multiple years left unless it's for a star type of impact piece. I hope I'm wrong.

 

I think that was from Woj's article and I'm calling b*******. He was one of the hottest names before the deadline and leading up to the draft. Best offer was cap space? Nope. And that's subjective, best offer according to who? If he asked a member of the Pistons organization who already has an Ayton tattoo across their chest, then he sees this as Grant for Ayton. But that simple ain't so.

 

does that necessarily follow? it's also possible that they wanted to get off his salary immediately to help this year's FA plans, with which we couldn't assist anyway.

i think they will if they get a chance. again, word was we tried to with the knicks before the deadline, right? and they had no star impact piece. i just think we're getting frozen out because people think we don't have any leverage. patience can change that. but again, if anyone offers me some role players for russ and i'm not paying in picks, i'm biting immediately.

otherwise, we wait...it's going to be hard to start the season with him on the roster, but i'll take it if everyone's trying to prey on us.

 

Detroit is all over the place. Either way, they got off of him, and we can move on. My point is: I don't think we ever an offer or was he in the Lakers plans besides some reports that added fuel to the fire.

I never see the Knicks report? Where was that from?