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  1. sirronstuff

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    If Bronny gets drafted here, I never watch another Laker game the rest of my life. We don't need that.
     
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    lebron is not going anywhere

    he wants to be in LA and the lakers want him to break kareem's record in a lakers uniform
     
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    too much money involved for it not to happen

    But I WOULD be ok with trading him, just for the record. I'd actually have a ton of respect for the front office for doing so.
     
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    Maybe..or Bronny might actually turn out to be a decent prospect. It all depends on him, not LeBron IMO.
     
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    Westbrook avg 27 pts 8 rebs and 7 assists in Houston. He also shot a career high 47% from the field. The Rockets won a playoff series and then ran into a superior Lakers team. The man played that series with a torn quad. The Westbrook is washed and has been declining stuff is a false narrative. He willed the Wizards into the playoffs last season, knocking us off twice along the way. He didn't fit with with Vogel and he only played 21 games with Lebron and AD. In most of those games, one or the other was returning from being out. The Russ hate is a bit overblown IMO. That man can still hoop, no he's not a James or Davis caliber player, but that's not what we need him to be. I understand that u haves issues with his contract and all that. Me... that's a hell of a lot of cap space available after next season in my view. He's an asset, and will most likely thrive with another coach and the chance to actually play a lot with Lebron and AD. That's my take on Russ..he does need to tighten up on those FT and missed layups. Yet he can still get to the cup, and he finds the open man on the regular. I can live with his shortcomings for at least another season.
     
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    Yeah well be prepared to stay planted on the Westbrook is the problem band wagon next season too.
     
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    This freakin guy.
     
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    Lol..the season is over now..I'll be waiting for all the hoop gurus to explain exactly how Westbrook, was more at fault than the 2 Superstars playing 21 games together. It should be interesting
     
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    This freakin guy.
     
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    Exactly my point..it's the injuries..but hell let's qo ahead and blame Westbrook too! How was Westbrook supposed to overcome the injuries? Well nobody seems to have an answer for that one. The team sucked without Lebron and AD last season too. Oh well..so let's just put it all on Westbrook anyway. Yeah Rob signed a bunch of geezers, Vogel coached himself out of a job, still it's WESTBROOK that's the real problem. FOH.
     
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    I don't know bro, it really depends on how the kid develops. He's considered a top HS prospect, he has the genes, I know he will get all the top notch training available. I wouldn't doubt the he's capable of at least being worthy of a G league contract. Those guys get called up, they are on the bench. I don't think Lebron is such of an egomaniac, to think that his son should be on a team even if he doesn't have the talent, just to fulfill some dream of his. I really don't, so we'll see how it plays out.
     
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    That post honestly wasn't a shot at you.

    I do agree that the injuries were a huge problem and the overall roster construction was bad. I think Rob and the front office are getting a huge pass on how the team ended up with Russ (and to an extent even LeBron) taking most of the heat for it and Vogel likely being the only person to actually lose their job.

    I feel like the front office should've known that they would at the very least have difficulties filling out the roster with a large contract like Russ. Once they pulled the trigger, they needed to at least beef up the coaching staff to help figure out how to put the pieces together given what we knew of Vogel's strengths and weaknesses - there's nothing preventing them from bringing in some other guys to the staff especially since they control that. Failure to do these things is pretty unforgivable in my opinion and reason 1,314,299 that the front office needs to be overhauled.

    I've had my issues with Russ, but I thought the criticisms of him went way overboard a long time ago when idiots were harassing him in public.
     
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    Again Slick, he wasn’t the whole cause but his turnovers, brain farts, lack of team defense, what the rest of the team construction left was able to be with his salary here was ALL a BIG part. In spite of all your contentions. He makes way too many stupid plays at the worst times. If he played all season like he did at the end it would have helped some. Why does it take 2/3 of a season for the guy to do that now?
     
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    I can agree with your assessment. I don't blindly support Russ like some seem to think, but I do think that laying most of the blame at his feet is wrong.

    Agh the FO..I don't know, we did win a recent Championship, so I can see them taking it as just plain bad luck on the injuries.(Who knew that Nunn was going to miss the entire season too?)Coming back so quickly from the Bubble ,and trying to play 72 games hurt the game overall IMO.

    I'm really not expecting a big shake up in the management structure, maybe if it all goes south again next season.
     
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    I hear you..now maybe having an entirely new team, outside of the two stars(Who both missed large chunks of the season) attributed to the slow start too? The thing about his salary is this..we were already over the cap at the end of last season with the extensions to KCP and Kuz. We weren't going to sign more than min contracts anyway outside of the deal Nunn got. Not a single one of those S&T floated during free agency, would have happened without the Russ trade either. So it was bring back Dennis- most didn't want him back either- or make a trade. It didn't work out, mostly because James and Davis were MIA. He played a lot better to close out the season, maybe he got settled in. I still think it's hard to judge a trio if they only played 21 games. The role players were never meant to carry the load, that's why they are role players. The guy has his faults, true indeed, but he plays hard, he gets people open looks, and he shows up to work everyday. The overall picture isn't as terrible as folks make it out to be. Again those blown layups and poor FT are my main gripes with him. He did cut down on a lot of the foolish turnovers, but James and others made their fair share of the same all season too.
     
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    i mean, lebron and klutch first tried to (falsely, i might add) steer the narrative the other way around the deadline, trying to distance themselves from their role in the construction of the team.

    suggesting that lebron's power isn't huge is disingenuous on the part of the tweeter. he absolutely had that power. until we got westbrook and it was a disaster. now he doesn't, which is good. if we continue to make bad decisions, then we can fire the FO. but lebron definitely engineered that part. i mean, we had a freaking deal that players involved and the other team thought was definitely happening. if that doesn't scream "lebron came in with an explosive-laden vest", i'm not sure what does. it's essentially what happened.
     
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    So what though? You really think Buddy Hield was going to change anything? He'd still be under contract for two more seasons. Lebron brought us AD, the man went to the frigging Finals in 10 out of 11 seasons. OK..maybe acquiescence to his preferred trade option, wasn't such a huge leap of faith in the 1st place? He and AD failed to suit up in order to make it work. Yeah that part is on them, but hindsight is 20/20.
     
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    my issue wasn't listening to lebron so much as the writer suggesting that we didn't have to. yes we did. and now we don't.
     
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