2022-23 Team Developments: News / Trades / Free Agents / Rumors

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  1. JSM

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    Hawks not done dealing
    You know...Nunn is kind of a starter. THT, Nunn, Baze, DJ, + 1st works for Collins. Plus we get to be really aggressive in the buyout market with 3 open slots.


    Blazers could look to shed salary to avoid a heavy tax bill. I think they'll be one of the more interesting teams at the deadline because of where they're at and the assets they have and I have no idea of what their plan is.
    Really hope we don't waste our assets on Covington as a trade target.


    Latest on Turner and Sabonis.
    If we don't move THT at the deadline, I wonder if we revisit this potential deal in the off-season, which would give us longer to integrate Turner and another new style.


    Kings looking to make a push.
    A deal for Barnes and TT would seem very on brand if they made half of what they make. A Barnes deal could be intriguing because he addresses a lot of our big wing needs. No interest in TT, but I know Bron feels otherwise. And for whatever reason Rob is obsessed with Hield. I think any potential Kings deal that they try to make us pay a heftier tax considering we terminated our off-season deal for Hield.


    Bucks want a big... guess what?
    We have two we don't use. Take your pick.


    Rockets shopping Wood (overvalued), Gordon (certain they can get a 1st for him), and Theis (backup plan for Turner teams)

    Mavs wanting to hold on to both Brunson and DFS. DFS looking for $15m this summer.

    Cs want to get under the tax. Smart, AL, DS and Nesmith are potential movers

    Raptors looking to add size
    Hey Toronto, guess what we have for you...:Dwight Shaka:


    And to close it out, the price tag for the Cranjis wing target for us...Kenrich Williams.
    If they were willing to take back two corpses, like DJ and Baze, giving us a roster spot would you consider giving up the 27 1st?

    I think I would IF it's either heavily protected or they give us an early 2nd in the deal, as well.
     
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    We could actually go for some of these potential trades where everyone benefits. There are teams desperate for bigs who can at least play some minutes. We can provide.

    I definitely suggest we revisit the Turner trade. He'd be a great fit.
     
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    The definition of insanity is doing the same lame thing every year and expecting a different result.

    Trade Beal and get on with your life already.
     
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    Don't do anything.

    Wait until the summer.
     
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    Bazemore may have had his best game of the year last night… but him and DJ likely still have negative value. We’d probably have to give up second rounders to dump them.

    If we want to create some roster spots, thoughts on going the other direction? Instead of having to pay to dump Baze/DJ, what if we could get a second rounder coming our way to dump Dwight and/or Ellington?

    I feel like Dwight and Ellington may still have value around the league and could fit in better on other rosters that would actually have use for them.

    In an ideal world, I’m not ready to fully “punt” on the season and would love to have them to help out situationally. But realistically it feels like we’re not going to use them much at all.

    Helping them move to a better situation, while replenishing some of our second round draft stock to help bolster possible trade packages this summer.
     
  6. JSM

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    Orrrrr... dump all 4. Pair a "useful vet" with dead weight. For example...

    1) Ellington and DJ to Phoenix for McGee.
    2) Dwight, Baze, and a Wiz 2nd rounder to OKC for Kenrich Williams. OKC can then probably flip Dwight for another 2nd rounder elsewhere.

    I know the goal of your exercise was to gain 2nd rounders as assets, but with this you get a playable backup C. Plus another young wing who can do a lot of what we're looking for from our bigger named, more talented targets (like Grant, Covington, and Trent) just to a lesser degree BUT we will have him under contract next year too. I value cheap assets who do what we need when we'll really struggle on the min market this summer. And we get two slots to chase buyout players.

    That's a low key deadline but with smaller, more doable trades where we keep our chips this summer of THT and maybe Nunn, get better, and have buyout flexibility. Turning 4 DNP'ers into rotation players which prevents games like Philly and Charlotte because you have NBA players filling in those minutes.
     
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    I’d say the goal of my thought exercise wasn’t necessarily to get second rounders, but just to show that there may be some low key trade scenarios we’re not thinking of that could still help us.

    But along those same lines, I actually like your trade ideas MUCH better!

    I’ve long given up on the idea of a home run trade, but I’d still be disappointed if we completely stand pat at the deadline. I still hope/expect that Rob can pull off something small like this.
     
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    I like it and I hope the Lakers are looking at moves like this. We don’t have a lot of options to upgrade with a home run, but we can improve around the margins by swapping absolutely DONE players for useful ones, via trades like this and hopefully via the buyout market with roster spots freed up from those same trades.
     
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    JSM, I like those trade ideas very much. Hopefully, this is how we're looking to improve. I'm just not sure... why would PHX trade with us like that?
     
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    Report came out they're looking to add some shooting. I theorized a page ago that Biyombo's play makes McGee expendable. We have a good history with JaVale. I don't see much on their roster other than redundant pieces they'd be wanting to give up to get a shooter. Ellington would do well there. Maybe we have to sweeten it with a 2nd. James Jones has a very close friend on the Lakers, who just happens to be one of our GMs.
     
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    not sure why okc gives us williams, either, but he'd be a good fit for sure.
     
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    Their ask is a 1st. They're not getting anything earlier than the 20s for him. I think two 2nds are more valuable and offer them more flexibility. We'll give them one Wiz pick and Dwight gets them another one, whether we get a 3rd team in or they facilitate that after. There's enough teams currently chasing big man depth that they can reroute him.
     
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    you've clearly considered this more than i have. williams has been a target of mine since the summer, though, so i'm down for whatever gets him here. good backup sf.
     
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    I like the PHX explanation and we should explore this option if there's a possibility to do so.
     
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    After the perfect Grant option died on the table for reasons on all sides, I became desperate trying to rubix cube some of these other names we've been linked to (both officially and by fans) on to this roster. I really hate this roster. I like most of these guys not in relation to one another, but as a unit I really hate it. The only enjoyment I can scrounge up is from AR, Stan, Melo, or if AD has a game like he did vs. Philly. So any way I can come up with to dump as many of the others as possible that are moderately realistic, I'm going to hold on to such dreams until after the deadline passes. Then it's alcohol based.
     
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    ^
    You forgot Monk. He fits well with the young guys and is exciting to watch.

    For me Reaves, Monk, Stan and Melo (when he's hot off the bench, which is often) are great with our two main stars. Others, not so much.

    Basically, that's just 6 players, the others don't fit that great. That depth needs to be rebuilt.
     
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    You're right. Monk slipped my mind. He's surprisingly fun, especially his high flying dunks that still catch me by surprise.

    But yes, it's less than half the team. The rest of them I spend most of my time thinking about the team focused on how to get them off this team or trying to forget they exist (just like the rest of the league has).
     
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    Might as well take him off the board too, unless you want to pay out the nose.
     
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    You aren’t getting Gary Trent Jr, OG or Siakam from Raptors unless you’re over paying. Raptors have a lot of nice parts, just need an MVP caliber player over there like Kawhi (haha) or Joker to be a big time contender.
     
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    Folks,

    I haven't yet caught up on all the brilliant discussion in this thread, but wanted to pop in to give an update. Unfortunately, there's not much to report that you probably don't already know. Lakers have been very active on the phones ahead of the deadline, but not much reception on the other end. Other team's fascination with THT has died down considerably compared to last season, with more attractive younger assets on the market. Sentiment in the FO seems to be shifting towards "not making a move for the sake of making a move", attempting to put together a strong playoff run once all are healthy, and re-evaluating this summer. They are confident LeBron can keep up these numbers for another season.

    However, Lakers have had some early discussions with Phoenix recently, but I don't know the details yet.

    I'll try to make myself available if you have any additional questions.

    Take care!!
     
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