Avery Bradley Discussion

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  1. Weezy

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    Man, he fooled us good. Now I wish we’d have let his deal just end.
     
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    He's solid as depth and if guys are out, but Vogel just over uses him.
     
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    That’s the issue. He’s a 10-15 minute situational bench player, not a 30 mpg starter, and Frank cannot help himself because AB is his security blanket. I don’t dislike him, but the only way he wouldn’t have been overused is if he weren’t here.
     
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    I agree. His D is overrated, but I'd like him in smaller doses. Him and Westbrook are the worst starting offensive backcourt in the league.
     
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    Reaves need to start over him soon. He's just too small out there if he's playing big minutes
     
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    Jeez this guy just gets destroyed here on LB. I mean everyone not named AD and Westbrook was HORRIBLE tonight. Let's take a look shall we: Stanley Johnson went 1 for 6, Monk went 3 for 13!!! Melo 4 for 11, THT 2 for 8, Reaves had an OFER 0 for 4, Ellington 1 for 4. Bradley at 1 for 4 was no worse than anyone else out there besides our two stars.
     
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    It’s not always about the box score, LJ, he’s hurting us right now. He’s probably the worst starting SG in the NBA, and that’s not something we can have when we already are getting almost nothing of actual value from our PG either. Nobody is saying he’s garbage, he just doesn’t deserve to be starting and getting all the minutes he’s getting, Frank is over reliant on him. On a lighter note this cracked me up

     
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    I don't feel that he's hurting us. He's playing his role. Worst starting SG in the league? Pretty harsh. I just don't see what the alternative is? Reaves has come back down to earth in a big way. He's a great kid and I love him but he's a rookie and have you checked his offense lately? Much worse than Bradley. He shouldn't start. Monk? He played pretty damn well as a starter for a while there. I'd be down to give him another crack at it with AD, Lebron and Westbrook. Just got to get Lebron healthy.
     
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    Yes, I’m being too harsh, I’m the only one seeing these things…








     
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    I don't hate Bradley but I definitely feel like he should be coming off the bench.
     
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    Bradley is definitely a bench player. He should not start. Monk should. You could make an argument for Reaves because of his size, but I think he can still come of the bench in his first year as a pro. In any case, it should not be Bradley.
     
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    Monk is the only other SG who should possibly start over Bradley. Reaves is hitting the rookie wall right now, Ellington only plays offense and isn’t as versatile a scorer or as young as Monk, and Baze is terrible. THT has no outside shot and creates too much redundancy with the starters.
     
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    I actually like Bradley: it's great to find a rotation player off the scrap heap for nothing particularly a dude who's easy to cheer for (works hard, doesn't complain, does the dirty work) BUT that's a long way from saying he should start or see more than 10-20 minutes a game most nights. He's a guy who should come off the bench and be used for situational matchups like when guards (not big wings for sure) are getting hot or guys like Monk are getting picked on to change the complexion of the game.

    Tl;DR version: He's relief pitcher u save for certain hitters, but as a starting pitcher he's a guy team can just adjust for easily and pick on.
     
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    I completely agree with you
     
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    Monk has earned the right to start at this point. Especially with Lebron and AD out we need more fire power. At some point if we ever get healthy it would be interesting to see how he does with the starters as well though I’m still not convinced by his d. It has gotten better though.

    So far the reasons I’ve been with Bradley starting is that he actually pays attention on D and with Russ and Lebron out there you need someone to. Monk hadn’t for a while there but I’ve seen some improvement. Also Bradley’s familiarity with Lebron and AD from the championship season. He knows how to play with/off them without needing the ball which is dominated by Russ and Lebron. He knows how to effectively cut off ball and he’s had good success staying open at the 3 point line and knocking down open looks. His half court game is complementary to the stars. I also think he will be less effective off the bench with the second unit because he can’t really create his own looks the way a guy like Monk does. Monk by nature is a great 6th man scorer aka Lou Williams. He’s awesome at creating his own offense. If he’s the fourth option with the starters will that really work? I don’t know it’s just not as good a fit in my view.

    But for now at least he should start, and who knows, maybe when Lebron and AD return we try it out?
     
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    It's probably time to consider replacing AB in the starting lineup for Monk or Reaves. Heck put out a feeler for him and see if anyone will bite during the trade deadline.




     
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    Seems he's made it to AD's dog house

     
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    Really need to get Reaves in here immediately. For Reaves to get 30 minutes+ your only going to be able to do that if he starts. Bradley is not just not an NBA starting caliber player, he just can't play more then 20 minutes. Just too short out there
     
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    Bradley doesn't score consistently enough, that's the main issue. A guy his size isn't going to lock anybody down on defense. You can't touch the small guys and the bigger ones shoot over you. He has to score in order to be effective, because he's never been a good facilitator.
     

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