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We'd still have around the same record. Those cats were here last year defending their way to the play in game. LOL..Throw in the cerebral Marc Gasol and Dennis the menace to boot. Must have been a coaching problem eh?

 

no, we'd have about 6 more wins and be firmly in the playoffs, and we'd have TONS of trade options. instead of, you know, none.

 

6 wins? Who knows? Some of them could have missed time just like their replacements and the record could be worse..What upgrade options?.we couldn't give those guys away last season. Washington declined that trade twice. Frankly I don't think we need a trade, we need AD back and healthy more than anything.

 

When you think about it...we had all those guys, let's add Kief to it too. Yet we still finished in the play in game. Maybe Vogel is the problem. It kind of makes sense why we dragged our feet on his extension.

 

good lord.

 

You have all the answers...Explain it then. Last year's bunch was soo superior, why couldn't we do better than the play in game. They weren't hurt and missing tons of games. What happened?

 

So? He's missed half of this one but the players are the problem. That is my point...if we had all these superior players last season and we could only get to the playin game because AD was hurt. How can it be said that this roster is so flawed when AD is hurt? Maybe the coach isn't getting the most out of what he has to work with? Two seasons in a row?

 

The supporting cast didn't miss all these games like this year's bunch, or had to gell with 12 new players either. Yet they still only managed to get to the play in game. I would like somebody to point out what made them soo superior. This group is still at 500 inspite of all these flaws and ill fitting players. Lebron and AD have played 3 consecutive games with Westbrook all season.

 

Lakers missing LeBron and/or AD the last two years for extended periods of time have ruined them. All this other stuff is the working parts not working because the team is set up to have those two playing regularly.

That's ultimately the problem.

 

The number one rated defense doesn't mean anything to me..that's another point. We still finished in the play in game and went out in the 1st round. The Knicks had a top ranked defense too and got bounced in the first round. Defense is not some magic elixir. You have to be able to score in this league too. Especially in the playoffs.

 

I don't think a trade needs to be made at all. As for Kuz, KCP last season, we shopped them all year and couldn't move them for anything of worth. So it's not like it's that simple because they were on cheaper contracts. Getting back trash doesn't help the situation any. We had to offer a 1st rd pick just for Buddy Hield.

 

Now for the rare occasion I totally agree with OX. I just wanted to pull out these "the roster is too flawed for Frank" folks.

 

No. I'm not arguing for arguing sake at all. I thought that team should have done better without AD, because we had Lebron and a core that just won a chip, and added two top sixth men who were known for providing an offensive punch. I though that team underachieved. Frank underachieved. This year I was more inclined to give Vogel a break because, there are 12 new guys, Lebron and AD have missed a lot of these games, Nunn is still out. Yet the more I watch, the more it seems to me that Frank could be doing more with what he has this year too. Perhaps it might actually be Vogel that's a big part of the problem. I'm rather nonplussed about the defense stuff as I pointed out. I don't think that was the main reason we won the chip and losing close is still losing.

 

Of course the lower the salary the easier it is to make a trade. The thing is..we could have traded those guys rather easily, but the FO didn't consider the return worth the trade. That's why they didn't get moved.

 

they were up on phoenix before AD went down and i'm pretty confident saying they would have won that series had he not gotten injured

i agree that you still have to score to win games, but it's not like russ has helped much in that aspect. of all the offseason adds, only melo and monk have contributed to the scoring more often than not. if they had kept last season's team mostly intact and just made a few moves to bring in some shooters/wings, this team would no doubt still be a title contender