WMC 23-24: Whine, Moan & Complain! LET THE COMPLAINING BEGIN!

Discussion in 'Lakers Discussion' started by puffyusaf#2, Aug 2, 2021.

  1. LTLakerFan

    LTLakerFan - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    34,791
    Likes Received:
    58,371
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    So Cal
    Offline
    Not yet. Keep it in your ……

    :ADnaughty:
     
  2. abeer3

    abeer3 - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    25,919
    Likes Received:
    70,503
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    went to bed at halftime, wtf happened in the third quarter? looks like the starters got WAXED.
     
  3. karacha

    karacha Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    8,416
    Likes Received:
    27,346
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    We have no chemistry yet, that's obvious. You can't develop that overnight. But, aside from that, we don't seem to have a real offensive plan either. Any possession that results in, say, Bazemore iso, is due to not being on the same page offensively. There were some good handoff sets explored but often they don't seem to go anywhere... yet. So, I don't know... our soft schedule might save us because the start of the season might be a bit rough.

    Defense is getting there, slowly but surely.
     
    Cookie likes this.
  4. fabfourlakers

    fabfourlakers - Lakers Starter -

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2014
    Messages:
    3,432
    Likes Received:
    7,822
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    we look like crap honestly....haven't seen a single good game yet.

    I'm not worried - just pointing out that we have a lot of work to do before start of the season which is actually oonly a week away now...
     
  5. abeer3

    abeer3 - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    25,919
    Likes Received:
    70,503
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    feel like the last time the preseason was this bad was 2012.

    [​IMG]
     
    D-Fish Man and alam1108 like this.
  6. Kenzo

    Kenzo - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    7,430
    Likes Received:
    15,595
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Poland
    Offline
    So far it's painful to watch. I don't think i could find 5 mins. of decent basketball combined from these last 4 games.
     
    Khmrp likes this.
  7. pika1708

    pika1708 - Lakers Starter -

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2020
    Messages:
    2,361
    Likes Received:
    4,204
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    I think we coast through regular season, most likely missing the top 4.
    Lebron has been saving himself in the reg season and I think that culture is becoming a franchise culture. We can see it in the speech of the team during this preseason, still not having the big 3 playing together during 4 games of the preseason with no injury to explain it.
    I think we will take our time to gel during the regular season.


    I don't like it. One of the keys to our last chip was the mentality of the squad. They even had an agreement that they couldn't lose twice in a row during all year. I loved it.
    I don't like this.
     
  8. 432J

    432J - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    6,450
    Likes Received:
    14,205
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    yeah, i know it's just preseason but i wish bron-AD-westbrook would play more to build that chemistry. still need to address the hole at the wing, especially now with injuries already starting to pile up. is reaves really someone to be depended on there? and shooting still seems to be an issue

    i'd be shocked if they don't stumble out of the gate and hover around .500 for the first month or two
     
  9. Azndude2190

    Azndude2190 - Lakers 6th Man -

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2014
    Messages:
    1,564
    Likes Received:
    3,834
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    My assessment so far:

    Good:
    • Dwight
    • Monk
    Ok:
    • Bazemore
    • Nunn
    • Reaves
    • Carmelo
    • Rondo
    Meh:
    • AD
    • THT
    • Lebron
    • Westbrook
    • Ellington
    • DeAndre
     
    CarolinaLakerFan and LTLakerFan like this.
  10. sirronstuff

    sirronstuff - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    30,442
    Likes Received:
    74,866
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Your time is running out Ham
    Location:
    Laker Purgatory
    Offline
    82-0
     
    D-Fish Man likes this.
  11. alam1108

    alam1108 - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    13,498
    Likes Received:
    37,006
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Laker Land
    Offline
    f*** this injury bug
     
    LTLakerFan and Cookie like this.
  12. LTLakerFan

    LTLakerFan - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    34,791
    Likes Received:
    58,371
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    So Cal
    Offline
    I remember a period on CL where we were in Kyrie's neighborhood and convinced there was someone out there with a voodoo injury doll. :D
     
  13. Juronimo

    Juronimo - Lakers Starter -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    2,397
    Likes Received:
    6,608
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    plays with one's and zero's
    Location:
    the sky's the limit
    Offline
    Westbrook so far is looking how I expected him to look, unfortunately.
     
  14. fabfourlakers

    fabfourlakers - Lakers Starter -

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2014
    Messages:
    3,432
    Likes Received:
    7,822
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    THT being out for sure hurts but it also kinda makes Vogel's job...easier? He'll be forced to play a few guys now as a result...Monk/Nunn going to get more time and continuity with our guys...
     
    karacha likes this.
  15. karacha

    karacha Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    8,416
    Likes Received:
    27,346
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    ^
    Very true. Nunn and Monk need to show what they can do, they need minutes to get in rhythm, and they both seem to be impactful players. I don't think we'll be in trouble because THT is out for a month, but it is disappointing that our season is starting like this. First Ariza and now him.
     
    abeer3 likes this.
  16. Pioneer10

    Pioneer10 - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2019
    Messages:
    4,463
    Likes Received:
    12,242
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    THT was meh the first game but I thought he really improved over the next 2 and looked like the guy the Lakers was hoping for (especially the jumper looked confident). Oh well he's out for awhile
     
  17. JohnnyComeLately2k6

    JohnnyComeLately2k6 - Lakers 6th Man -

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2014
    Messages:
    1,068
    Likes Received:
    3,823
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Data Vampire Buckaroo
    Location:
    The Land of Ophir
    Offline
    I know it's only the preseason but...
    [​IMG]
     
  18. 432J

    432J - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    6,450
    Likes Received:
    14,205
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    the suns went winless last preseason
     
  19. JSM

    JSM - Lakers Legend -

    Top Poster Of Month

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    16,385
    Likes Received:
    64,285
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    So did the Bucks.
     
  20. KobeJeterKaep

    KobeJeterKaep - Rookie -

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2014
    Messages:
    737
    Likes Received:
    1,280
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Location:
    Buffalo
    Offline
    The Suns offense is beautiful. Like Pops in ways. Not much ISO unless there is an obvious switch mis-match.

    Our offense has looked the same for a while, years, esp the AD hold the ball low take 1 jab step then one dribble pull up from 15 feet while everyone stands around watching. We need to make guys (guards) like CP3, Kyrie, Steph, Klay, Dame, Luka, Mitchell, Murray etc actually defend (guard) more. Run them like Rip Hamilton did, or switch to them and pound them with Bron, Ad, Melo, etc. Take their legs during games.

    We are not easy to defend - talent and height alone. But make it easier too often. IMO

    I hope there is much less iso with Bron and Westbrook on the floor - esp with Ellington and Monk. Melo will chuck, but that’s his job.


    Hope to see much more pick and roll this year - Wes, Monk, Nunn, and Bron, with our bigs. Cutters off it.

    Still can’t defend the 3 with proper rotations, but the Suns are a kryptonite to us in that regard, it seems. They are constantly beating us by double digits (starters to starters).
     

Share This Page