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  1. TIME

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    I would not be opposed to Zo coming. IF his head is on straight, and I don't know if it is. He remains a big LeBron guy. He would fit Vogel's defensive mindset. He can finally make some 3s. The playmaking is solid. The FTs and scoring at the rim are still a concern, or has he dramatically improved in those areas too?
     
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    He's definitely better than KP. But max worthy? But again, I'm against maxing guys like Ingram, Fox, Tobias...

    He fits wells with Luka, who doesn't, but I don't see him averaging 25-12, which is what Dallas need to move the needle. Next year it seems there will be many stars available, I would probably wait.

    On the other hand, not many superstars are willing to play with Luka has the franchise will always be his
    He basically just shot 3s all season. I don't remember many attacks to the basket. I give him a pass
     
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    Lonzo must not have the "big balls" that laughably the family embraced for several years with their own hard worked "Big Baller" brand. I say this because he always showed "flashes" of being able to get to the rim occasionally with his speed, athleticism and hops. But was as well always hesitant to do so, even after LeBron implored him to do it more often. Must just not like the contact that comes with doing it a lot. Maybe too he remembers what it's like to be met high at the rim on a dunk attempt like Caruso did him and dropped from up there on his back. That s***'s got to hurt! Anyway Melo seems to have bigger ones in that regard.
     
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    we all know lonzo's shooting would dip back down to his 17-18 and 18-19 numbers if he returned to the lakers

    he can't handle the pressure and bright lights
     
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    you're against maxing Ingram n the likes but wont mind maxing Sexton? Fox is better than sexton n both are on losing franchise
     
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    I'll take a 35 year old Chalmers at the min over DS at his ask ($ + yrs).
     
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    Of all the suggested trades I've seen from writers, the one that makes the most sense for both teams is moving him to Portland for CJ. They'd have to feel confident that Anfernee Simons is ready to take on a larger role offensively because they lose a lot of offense if they move CJ. They've tried to put offense next to Dame and I think that's gone as far as it can go there. They haven't tried an elite perimeter defender. Don't think it gets them over the hump either, but it's worth a hail Mary in trying to Dame to stay.

    I also think CJ fits really well with Joel. Maybe the team won't stall out offensively with him. Doc will probably F that up too, but I think it gives them a better shot against the Bucks and Nets.


    I think Collins is the exact kind of guy you have to max as a #2 next to him. One knows he's the Robin. He's averaged 20/10 in two of the past 3 years, I think Luka (a superior creator) can give him an easy extra couple dunks/lob attempts. So, I don't think 24 PPG as their #2 is a stretch.

    Like you said, I don't think they're getting #1 caliber guys to come there, so get some guys who can thrive next to Luka and are young enough to still be improving.

    Don't think that puts them over the hump, but you have to built a long term group around Luka and why not start now?
     
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    I'm also completely against maxing Sexton. He's not even in the tier of the guys I mentioned
    CJ for Simmons was the perfect trade for all parties. With this Dame rumours, it seems that such trade would be a downstep, because trading for Lillard would also be Ben-centered. It's tough, but I would still do it with no questions.

    It's a fair point your take on Collins. It's probably the best available move for Dallas if they can pull it off.
     
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    Only realistic player, that is a star, the Lakers can get this summer is Russell Westbrook. Lakers would need to work some salaries to make it work and package the right players but Washington would trade the remaining 91 mil on his contract for some young talent. Sign Schroder S &T, with Kuzma, fillers and the #22 to Washington for Westbrook.

    You now have 3 stars on the team for the next two years. Westbrook loves his stats, he can kill himself to get his triple dubs during the year and Lebron and AD can be fresh for the playoffs. Win-Win for everyone.

    Again, i am talking REALISTIC shot here. If there was another star, i would love to get them, but the lakers do not have enough assets to get a star. Washington would be doing that trade to rid themselves of that salary, not so much for a return on talent. The other thing with Westbrook is he is pretty healthy his entire career but for one season. And the Lakers need healthy players in a really bad way.
     
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    I think Westbrook is the realistic third star as well. Washington will more than likely want to rebuild and if that’s the case they’ll want to get rid of his contract. I’m good with it. Not a perfect fit but it could work.
     
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    Now that trade I do in a heart beat.
     
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    Lakers needs spacing , Ball and Westbrook are not the solution
     
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    i'd take wall over westbrook at this point, but would rather avoid both.

    i think collins is a good fit in dallas, but they'd need to move zinger.
     
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    Our name got brought up in teams that could be in the mix for PJ Tucker

    His toughness, physicality, and shooting could be a nice fit depending on what happens with our center trio. I think he'd work next to Drumm and next to AD. But as I said earlier, his 3 ball % is plummeting year after year. Factor in the LA curse and he might not hit anything. If he's interested in the min, then you have my attention.
     
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    PJ's 3-point shooting for the past 5 years (reverse chronological order):

    37, 37, 35, 31, 39.

    It seems to me that the 31% was the anomaly, that was a difficult year for everyone and the Rockets obviously had some chemistry problems. He shot 39.4 this year, that's not bad. He's a corner 3 specialist, plays physical D, might work. But he's old, which is why I have my reservations.
     
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    hard pass
     
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    I’d take Lonzo back. However, I think there’s zero chance the Pels will trade with us again anytime soon.
     
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    at min, sure. but as others said--he's old. and his body type doesn't age well.
     
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    No way Westbrook and Lebron will work. Both on and off the court thats not a good combination at all. Both of them need the ball and both of them have a vastly different approach to basketball at this point in their careers. I am sure last thing Lebron needs in his last years is Westbrook calling him out and barking at him in practice.
     
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    Here's what would have to happen to get Zo...

    Not worth it. Not even a little bit. I'm not hard capping the team and I'm not giving up DS (walking), KCP and Kuz. Neither is a smart move for the team. If you can clear $20m, there's better ways to spend it. If you're hard capping the team, there are better players to do it for.
     
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