2022-23 Team Developments: News / Trades / Free Agents / Rumors

Discussion in 'Lakers Discussion' started by BangBoomPow, Jun 3, 2021.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. TIME

    TIME Administrator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    5,803
    Likes Received:
    22,723
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Lifelong Lakers fan.
    Location:
    LaLa Land
    Offline
    I could see Portland offering Nurkic, Powell-or-Covington and Collins + picks for KAT.
     
  2. Savory Griddles

    Savory Griddles Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2014
    Messages:
    9,152
    Likes Received:
    22,367
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    I just don't think KAT moves the needle that much for Portland. I think he's pretty overrated. And his attitude has always been a question. Lillard doesn't strike me as the type of person who suffers fools.
     
    Toneloc, wcsoldier81 and Barnstable like this.
  3. Savory Griddles

    Savory Griddles Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2014
    Messages:
    9,152
    Likes Received:
    22,367
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    abeer3 likes this.
  4. abeer3

    abeer3 - Lakers Legend -

    Top Poster Of Month

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    28,358
    Likes Received:
    76,302
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    so...exactly what i said? thus, there is not an actual hard cap. look up "hard cap". "there are situations that can trigger a hard cap, and signing your own player isn't one of them" was my literal quote.

    your own words:

    simply not true.
     
    Toneloc likes this.
  5. abeer3

    abeer3 - Lakers Legend -

    Top Poster Of Month

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    28,358
    Likes Received:
    76,302
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Toneloc and Savory Griddles like this.
  6. Slick2021

    Slick2021 - Lakers MVP -

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2021
    Messages:
    8,749
    Likes Received:
    7,492
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    No. Let me be clearer, we can sign our own free agents to any amount over the cap. That isn't a hard cap scenario. Except in one circumstance. if we were to receive a player that was S&T by his team. We could not go over the hard capped amount of 138 million or so. That would include Bird rights for our own free agents. It clearly states that once you are hard capped by one of the three actions. You can not go over the hard cap apron under any circumstances. Not except with the exception of the Bird rights. It's a moot point because we are looking to send a player out by that, not recieve one.
     
  7. Slick2021

    Slick2021 - Lakers MVP -

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2021
    Messages:
    8,749
    Likes Received:
    7,492
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Name one team that was hard capped and resigned their Bird rights player above the tax apron and hard cap.
     
  8. Slick2021

    Slick2021 - Lakers MVP -

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2021
    Messages:
    8,749
    Likes Received:
    7,492
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    VincePT likes this.
  9. wcsoldier81

    wcsoldier81 - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    5,096
    Likes Received:
    9,872
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Lillard and KAT , what a defensive duo at key positions ...
     
    Toneloc and Savory Griddles like this.
  10. abeer3

    abeer3 - Lakers Legend -

    Top Poster Of Month

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    28,358
    Likes Received:
    76,302
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    so your argument is that golden state, brooklyn, and the lakers cannot re-sign their stars if it's going to take them over the apron? you can't be serious.

    you were reporting misinformation, and i corrected you.

    https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2020/11... a club uses the,remainder of the league year.

    just those three things. if you don't do any of those, you can use bird rights to blow past the apron, as the nets and golden state have done.

    if we use the BAE, the full MLE or receive a signed-and-traded player, we get hard-capped. many teams do these things, but it doesn't matter because they're far from the lux tax. it would matter to us. if we use the full MLE, then i believe our contracts to AC and THT couldn't push us over the hard cap. this, however, could be solved by re-ordering those signings, i believe. still, though, you'd be hard-capped at the end, which could reduce trade flexibility to some degree (for this year).

    tl;dr: there is no hard cap in the nba. only a few things trigger it. we will see if we do any of them.
     
    Toneloc likes this.
  11. Slick2021

    Slick2021 - Lakers MVP -

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2021
    Messages:
    8,749
    Likes Received:
    7,492
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    SMH...I posted this link from hoopsrumors.com first. You are just repeating what I already posted. Again...No you can't go over the apron if you are hard capped for any reason period, including resigning your own free agents. That's all I said...I don't know why you keep bringing up the part about Bird Rights signings don't trigger a hard cap, I know that, I posted that link. I don't understand what misinformation you feel that you corrected.
     
  12. abeer3

    abeer3 - Lakers Legend -

    Top Poster Of Month

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    28,358
    Likes Received:
    76,302
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    i posted your direct quote implying that you can't sign your own FAs. that was the misinformation. it implied the nba has a hard cap, which it doesn't.
     
  13. Barnstable

    Barnstable Supreme Fuzzler of Lakersball.com Staff Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2014
    Messages:
    7,274
    Likes Received:
    18,623
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Los Angeles
    Offline
    I don’t even know what the argument is anymore, but kudos for not making personal attacks at one another.

    :ADeyesonyouleft:
     
  14. OX1947

    OX1947 - Lakers MVP -

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2016
    Messages:
    8,301
    Likes Received:
    17,646
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    The argument is about two people who are both wrong who think they are right. But they aren't.
     
  15. Wino

    Wino - Lakers Starter -

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2017
    Messages:
    3,192
    Likes Received:
    6,951
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Retired
    Location:
    La Jolla
    Offline
    but boss, they are all poopies!!!

    [​IMG]

    I guess I screwed that up!?!

    [​IMG]
     
  16. abeer3

    abeer3 - Lakers Legend -

    Top Poster Of Month

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    28,358
    Likes Received:
    76,302
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    no.
     
  17. LaVarBallsDad

    LaVarBallsDad - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    16,172
    Likes Received:
    31,056
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Oh goodness.

    We need a salary cap guru. .

    And realistic scenarios.
     
  18. Savory Griddles

    Savory Griddles Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2014
    Messages:
    9,152
    Likes Received:
    22,367
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    We used to have a Salary Cap Jedi Master, but he went the way of Anakin.
     
    TIME likes this.
  19. LaVarBallsDad

    LaVarBallsDad - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    16,172
    Likes Received:
    31,056
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    You can find him over on LG now...

    :Laugh:
     
  20. abeer3

    abeer3 - Lakers Legend -

    Top Poster Of Month

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    28,358
    Likes Received:
    76,302
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    i really need to know what i said that was wrong now. i pushed back on the idea that you can't sign your own players if you're over the lux tax/apron. and that's objectively correct unless all of the several sources i provided are also wrong.

    we can't use full MLE, the BAE, or accept someone in sign and trade if we want to spend more than 135 or so on the roster, which we probably do.

    but if we want to sign caruso to a max deal, we can do it, no matter where it puts us--as long as we haven't done one of those three things.
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page