President Trump

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion and Philosophy -(FORUM CLOSED)-' started by TIME, Jan 20, 2017.

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    Funny how mail-in-ballots have been a disaster... It's a sound idea but there's way too many factors involved that can lead to inaccuracies. In Brooklyn, thousands were given ballots with misrepresented names... Now there are missing barcodes in some ballots so they are invalid. The person filling it out will only know it is invalid if they are tracking their ballot. How many people will actually remember to track their ballot? In another state, a USPS worker was caught disposing over hundreds of ballots. A friend of mine also did an absentee ballot but it never arrived so he went physically to go vote. He's an anti-Trumper but a solid dude. Only reason he dislikes Trump is because Trump kept calling it the China virus. I also would not be surprised if there are people who go around and begin monetizing ballots... They'll pay poor, homeless, or desperate people money for their ballots and have them fill it out. Totally not out of question... This is why electronic voting is susceptible to corruption.
     
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    wouldn't say its been a disaster. most of those claims about ballots being dumped in the trash, river, etc are just BS
    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/25/business/media/voter-fraud-misinformation.html

    of course there are issues that come with mail in ballots like signature verifications but those are very easy to fix, and where i live, the registrar of voters has been very on top of things and there to answer any questions. i dropped my ballot off at an official dropbox and it was the easiest thing ever. sure beats having to wait in line. i'd prefer to vote this way from now on
     
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    Imagine someone believing that.
     
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    didn't read the article?
     
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    My point is it is susceptible to fraud. You're only reading about the people who were caught manipulating the ballots. Plenty more where you haven't heard about. You said there was no issue with it. We're seeing some issues with it where even 1% of votes can determine an election. Vote in person, streamline the process, and do away with mass ballots.
     
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    where did i say there were no issues with it? of course we won't hear of every instance. but it's safe to say that voter fraud in this country is very rare
     
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    You were stating what was wrong with mass mail-in ballots during the month of August or September and many of us said there are too many cases of susceptible fraud. Months later, it's coming out that it is susceptible and how much is still TBD. Your solution was to 'track the ballot.' I told you that the amount of people who will actually track their ballot is slim to none. In my case, I just remembered to track my ballot because my brother told me to. How many old people sending these ballots do you think will remember or even know how to track it? Just a thought.
     
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    don't recall ever saying there were no issues with it. like i said in my last post, of course there will be problems that arise, but voter fraud in the US is very rare

    what's your source that the amount of people who will track their ballots is slim to none? the ballot i received came with pretty detailed instructions on how to track it, and with something as important as ballot, i'd assume most people would want to ensure theirs is received and counted. and in the case of a signature not matching, i've heard that you get something in the mail telling you what to do. so even if someone isn't tracking theirs, if that happens, they'll find out regardless
     
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    Voter fraud in the US is rare for Republicans.

    for Democrats, it’s part of the playbook.

    Register babies and dead people
    Bus people across state lines to vote
    Ballot stuffing
    Hiding votes
    Voting machine manipulation

    good times
     
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    https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud

    1,298 proven cases of voter fraud in the US in the past 20+ years. every single instance involved a democrat voter? interesting
     
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    Just so you know, it's very difficult to prove voter fraud. You are kidding yourself if you think only 1,300 cases exist. The government isn't even equipped to handle millions of cases. It's so funny. My uncle just voted today. No ID required... scanned barcode, entered, and voted. The people working the polls are average citizens. Some don't give a F. The last time I voted was in 2012... Voted for Obama. Didn't need any ID. Just brought my voter registration card, waited in line, some lady wrote my number down and in I went.
     
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    that's why i said "proven" cases in my post. of course there's been more, but still very rare
     
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    The funny thing is Democrats have been crying about voter fraud for decades, but when Trump went in on it in 2016 before and after the election, the liberal media bashed him or it. The ridiculous thing is anytime something like this gets attention thrown at it, it immediately gets “debunked” by the liberal media and Democrats.

    They also like to throw around international interference in our elections and blame it on Trump, when almost all evidence points to them doing so. They project onto Trump a lot, when they are the ones doing the things they say he does and thinking and wishing the things they say he does. I can make a case for literally everything: from racism, to xenophobia, to covid.
     
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    In NYC, they pushed a false narrative that the reason they don't require photo ID is because not every New Yorker can take the day off to get an ID... Yet, you need your state ID to qualify for some of the benefits that NYC offers as well as to drive a car. In reality, it's so they can push as many voters in without proper photo ID as possible. They just 'match' your signatures which in reality, is a fake preventive measure because every time I sign my name, it's different. They sure as hell didn't care in 2012. I just scribbled my name in and wouldn't even remember how it looked.
     
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    Chelsea Handler: "I had to remind 50 Cent that he was black and can't vote for Trump."

    150 years ago: "I had to remind 50 Cent that he was a slave and can't think for himself."

    Democrats never change.

    Get in line or we will destroy you.
     
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    If designating a certain race as a political affiliation isn't racist, I don't know what is. And this isn't something only Chelsea thinks. All of these white elites likely look down as blacks as needing Democrats to survive or something. Look at what Joe said... You ain't black if you don't vote for me? And Joe Biden thinks the first clean, articulate, and good looking black person in mainstream media is Barrack Obama... He said that in 2007.... So no black man before 2007 was clean, articulate, and good looking in mainstream media? Democrats use race as the preliminary argument every time but Republicans are the racists?
     
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    haha, tucker's had a rough few days

     
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    Hunter Biden has had a rough few days
     
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