Coronavirus - What Are The Implications?

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion and Philosophy -(FORUM CLOSED)-' started by BangBoomPow, Feb 28, 2020.

  1. LTLakerFan

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    One of your dubious talents is shamelessly making assumptions about strangers and throwing them like accusations. It sucks.
     
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    The last few posts illustrate one of the problems with this pandemic. We have people pointing to wildly different takes on this disease, and the takes are by people who wear their politics on their sleeve. How does a disease become political? How do we know what the truth is when it comes to the danger of this thing? I don't think it's as dangerous as some on the left says it is, but I also don't think it's mostly harmless like some on the right are making it out to be. How have we gotten to a point where we are even arguing about a disease from a political bias? And I'm NOT blaming the normal civilians. The government and media have COMPLETELY FUBAR-ed this.

    Can we not have something, ANYTHING in this life not be corrupted by politics? Movies, Sports, Disease...Heck, if I went back to as early as the 90's and tried to tell people about how things are being politicized, they wouldn't understand how it's possible.
     
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    And with all of THAT look at the choice of candidates these two parties have given us the last two elections in particular. I think this year is even hold my beer worse.
     
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    I'm not saying it isn't dangerous. I'm saying it's been overplayed. The people making it political are the ones who want everyone to stay home, jerk off, and eat canned beans for the entirety of the virus. The people who understand that the virus can be deadly but what is also deadly is the economy tanking leaving people without homes, food, a safety net, and other resources that are required. Here's what we do know... The virus is not as deadly as everyone thought.
     
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    I'm not the one who quoted a Chinese propaganda months ago. That was you.

    https://www.youtube.com/c/nowthisnews/videos

    This is the source he continues posting. Most of their videos are entirely leftist propaganda videos. They have a video where black people move away from white people and buy land so police officers don't kill them. He uses the same source for many of his posts and then disappears for days before posting another propaganda video while not really having any dialogue with responses. So unless you can disprove what I said, it's really not an accusation.
     
  6. 432J

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    it's incredibly sad how a pandemic has become politicized to the point where people wearing masks is now seen as a political issue

    wearing masks to protect yourself and others is now a political issue

    if only these anti-maskers had enough functioning brain cells to realize they're doing nothing but prolong the pandemic
     
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    I just want to say I love you all, and I hope that neither COVID-19 nor politics can drive a wedge between people in this community. None of it is worth it. it’s really not.

    We have complete imbecile leaders on both sides, and they all care more about staying in power than either you or I and how we are doing. It’s a mistake to think that they really care about your best interests.

    stay safe, take precautions, and if it’s not for you, for those who care about who may be more susceptible than you.
     
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    So then is it saying that covid accelerated their existing conditions? If so, you still don’t know what they actually died from. I’m gonna speak logically, not even taking a side. I’m sure you can agree that thing thing has been politicized, but if there was an agenda to record as many covid deaths as possible to make Trump look bad, it’s wouldn’t have been a hard thing for the coroner to see multiple conditions in the autopsy, see that the person was in fact infected by covid and put that down as the cause of death instead of say diabetes, pneumonia, heart disease, etc.

    Sorry to hear this man. That’s not a good situation at all. I hope you’ve been staying as careful as possible.

    While this is true and there’s no denying it, unfortunately it has been and is being politicized by both sides and that takes from what it actually is. Americans are in the middle of a battle between the left and the right and I absolutely despise the mainstream media because of this.

    Well social media is in fact idiotic so I can get with you there. I get into it all the time with liberals and conservatives. As a whole people are lazy and do not research and this is on a large scale so unfortunately I don’t see it changing anytime soon. We have to find ways to adjust, so we don’t lose our minds.
     
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    I’m trying to understand this. I’m not being facetious, I’m genuinely asking. Do masks prevent us from getting the disease? If it does than we should all be wearing masks right. If it doesn’t than wearing a mask isn’t protecting anyone. The facts are all over the place. I’ve heard doctors say masks works, I’ve heard other doctors say they don’t work. I’ve seen some people (myself included) wear them and I’ve seen others (myself included) not wear them. What on earth are the facts and where do you go. I’m not a medical expert, but if I have two medical experts (so called) telling me conflicting things then I’m gonna lose trust in the whole real fast. This is where I’m at. I only wear masks out of respect for others, not because I feel I’m being cautious.
     
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    there's plenty of available evidence that shows masks do indeed work to limit the spread of covid
     
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    Common sense that if you use a good mask with elite filtration you will be more protected as well in addition to protecting others from any sudden sneeze or cough you might have and conversation at proper distances when out and about shopping, working and whatever.

    I had 3 of these left over from Lowes purchase last year for yard work. Obviously better than single layer cotton or even dual layer cotton. There are other N95 facsimiles on the market you can find now as well.

    https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/company...1-N95-80-EA-Case/?N=5002385+3294780243&rt=rud

    I just bought one of these in black from this (new?) company I was turned on to and reading the specs of the level of filtration from the sown in filter, while not guranteeing against Covid-19 you can see how effective they are against the most minute of particles. I really like it a lot. Very comfortable. The nose bridge molds easily and retains the shape. When you breathe in it pulls the mask toward you so you know its an effective fit, but doesn't have that creepy look of sucking into your pie hole. It breathes easily. And they are washable up to 50 times I think with proper procedure. Price is reasonable but they gouge on the shipping for something so light.

    https://airbandmask.com
     
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    Some crazy right wing folks have been saying this mask mandate is about control, similar to Nazi Germany. And then the control over the holidays (number of guest, distance to travel, etc), coupled with what businesses can stay open and what time they close, etc.

    Now read this:

    The shielding approach aims to reduce the number of severe COVID-19 cases by limiting contact between individuals at higher risk of developing severe disease (“high-risk”) and the general population (“low-risk”). High-risk individuals would be temporarily relocated to safe or “green zones” established at the household, neighborhood, camp/sector or community level depending on the context and setting.1,2They would have minimal contact with family members and other low-risk residents.

    Current evidence indicates that older adults and people of any age who have serious underlying medical conditions are at higher risk for severe illness from COVID-19.3In most humanitarian settings, older population groups make up a small percentage of the total population.4,5 For this reason, the shielding approach suggests physically separating high-risk individuals from the general population to prioritize the use of the limited available resources and avoid implementing long-term containment measures among the general population.

    In theory, shielding may serve its objective to protect high-risk populations from disease and death. However, implementation of the approach necessitates strict adherence1,6,7, to protocol.



    Guess who came up with that? Our government. Please remember, the Jews weren't forced into zones, trains, camps and showers. They went voluntarily.

    SOURCE:
    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/201...ZC6Fv64EeIHRwakoKdpvXT1LLlQKP7iEdjNnKDMvzP5wc
     
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    you forgot to put a /s after your comment about the jews
     
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    Make plans to hide yer old people!
     
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    Is that Jews comment serious?
     
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    Do you know where the term "like sheep to the slaughter" comes from? I'm not victim blaming. Many fought back. Millions didn't.

    It's for your own good. For your safety (where have we heard that lately?). We have a 99.9% chance of surviving this disease and people are listening to their Dear Leaders (who don't follow their own mandates -- looking at you Gavin and Pelosi).

    Enjoy your Thanksgiving and don't forget to put the mask back on between bites.
     
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    the fact that you're even comparing some fear porn you found on social media to the holocaust is disgusting

    "like sheep to the slaughter" was used as a rallying cry to try and motivate jews to resist the nazis. you're 100% victim blaming, because you're not the first who has used that phrase in an attempt to blame the victims of the holocaust for their own fate. by your logic, those who didn't fight back "chose" their fate. were you there at the holocaust? do you know for a fact that those who didn't fight back actually "chose" not to instead of never even having an opportunity to do so? way to not only blame millions of people for their own fate, but call them cowards in the process.

    i'll listen to someone who was actually there, like elie wisel

    “The question is not why all the Jews did not fight, but how so many of them did. Tormented, beaten, starved, where did they find the strength – spiritual and physical – to resist?”
     
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    I agree that COVID-19 has been politicized.

    But I don't get the Nazi reference. The Nazi's, like all socialists, banned and confiscated weapons from private citizens. What were the Jews going to fight back with? Sticks and stones?
     
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    Took away their guns? Sounds familiar to the Dems. Zones? Sounds like the CDC site I posted. Control? How many are allowed in homes today?

    The comparison is valid.
     

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